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    Quote Originally Posted by hobostew View Post
    Gonna go for the controversial take here but the WoW cash shop is nowhere near as bad as ours. It's tiny in comparison.

    WoW also lets you get the stuff from the cash shop with gold through the tokens.
    Legal RMT is in no way better than our current cash shop system. We might have more items, but the ability to purchase in-game currency with real money in any capacity has been one of the major factors leading to Wow's decline in popularity.
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  2. #112
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    gaias outfit but not her hair.. hmm..
    wish they had added separate pieces, id love to mix / match her set in glamours.
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caro178 View Post
    Legal RMT is in no way better than our current cash shop system. We might have more items, but the ability to purchase in-game currency with real money in any capacity has been one of the major factors leading to Wow's decline in popularity.
    First off I need you to understand that I don't really have a stake in this fight. I've long felt this is something that has long been lost and have myself moved on from caring.

    With that out of the way I really need you to provide some proof for what you just said cause it really sounds like something you really would like to be true but you just pulled out of your rear end. C'mon show the class.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by hobostew View Post
    First off I need you to understand that I don't really have a stake in this fight. I've long felt this is something that has long been lost and have myself moved on from caring.

    With that out of the way I really need you to provide some proof for what you just said cause it really sounds like something you really would like to be true but you just pulled out of your rear end. C'mon show the class.
    I'll also be clear that I also don't have a stake in this. I have no love for the cash shop and have made extremely few purchases via it as a result. That being said, the purpose of Wow tokens is to create a tangible, legal link between in-game currency and real money. That's exactly what RMT is, which is why RMT is something that is, by all intents and purposes, legal in Wow.
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  5. #115
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    Guess I wasn't clear so we'll try again. Provide proof that the ability to purchase in-game currency with real money in any capacity has been one of the major factors leading to Wow's decline in popularity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hobostew View Post
    Guess I wasn't clear so we'll try again. Provide proof that the ability to purchase in-game currency with real money in any capacity has been one of the major factors leading to Wow's decline in popularity.
    This video is really interesting and contains a pretty detailed history that addresses stats, timelines and provides comparisons between various active mmos that exist today and the significance of in-game currency attached to real money like Wow tokens. The person who uploaded it is not some FFXIV nerd, just an mmo player who has played or is currently playing plenty of different mmos.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHzsRPmCaIE
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  7. #117
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    I'm so depressed it's a one piece. Even if it's not dyeable they could've split the pieces so we can glam them with other gear T_T whhyyyyyyy
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    Well, it's finally a thing. https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...1cd1a145c2232d

    Although, it's bitterly disappointing that it's a single piece. The entire thing, similar to Omega and Lyse - although at least the others had something extra to go with them, like the hairstyle.



    What are you guys' thoughts?
    I get that the mogstation team just want to have the least work possible by just making the set one piece...

    But heck, the shoes' 3D assets are visibly disconnected from the dress... why not go just an extra length to make them separate? I bet it would instantly make the item more desirable. I would surely purchase it if was the case.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    But heck, the shoes' 3D assets are visibly disconnected from the dress... why not go just an extra length to make them separate? I bet it would instantly make the item more desirable. I would surely purchase it if was the case.
    Because that would set a precedent. Why go the extra mile when a few steps will get the same results from a company standpoint? If people are happy with consuming subpar products then why add the additional workload?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    Because that would set a precedent. Why go the extra mile when a few steps will get the same results from a company standpoint? If people are happy with consuming subpar products then why add the additional workload?
    Because it would make the item more desirable for people who don't want to just do cosplay, but mix and match pieces? On that note, I wonder how many purchased Alphinaud's 1st outfit just beause of the hairstyle, for example.

    Plus, there's little consistency... Ryne has her items separate into shoes/dress/pants. Gaia don't.
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