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    Quote Originally Posted by Caro178 View Post
    There hasn't been any kind of contradiction, though? Alphinaud's Heavensward attire was unisex upon its release. Same goes for Alphinaud/Alisae's pre-Heavensward sets which are identical anyway.
    How was his HW outfit unisex? He's the only one who wears it. The initial ARR outfit makes sense since both twins wear it. But the HW outfit is only his.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    How was his HW outfit unisex? He's the only one who wears it. The initial ARR outfit makes sense since both twins wear it. But the HW outfit is only his.
    it's already been explained repeatedly in this very post... the twins have the same body... and head. Their gear is a non-issue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    How was his HW outfit unisex? He's the only one who wears it. The initial ARR outfit makes sense since both twins wear it. But the HW outfit is only his.
    Unisex as in the outfit itself sold on the cash shop fits both genders. Also, the twins have virtually the same body. I'm not saying any other character wears it, just that Alphinaud and Alisae have very simple, easily adjusted body shapes that are almost identical to begin with. The answer here is probably as easy as: the twins' unique Elezen teen body is easier to work with than something like Lyse's custom red dress (which already looks a bit funky and stretched if your character has larger breasts than it was intended to accommodate.) Even with a lot of tweaking it's probably close to impossible to make it look passable on a Hrothgar or male Roe, for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihility View Post
    it's already been explained repeatedly in this very post... the twins have the same body... and head. Their gear is a non-issue
    That wasn't the point of this topic. It's still Alphinaud's outfit. We don't know how things will proceed because we don't have either of Alisaie's outfits yet, so only time will tell.

    Additionally, this would mean Zero's outfit should be unisex as well given the model she uses.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caro178 View Post
    Unisex as in the outfit itself sold on the cash shop fits both genders. Also, the twins have virtually the same body. I'm not saying any other character wears it, just that Alphinaud and Alisae have very simple, easily adjusted body shapes that are almost identical to begin with. The answer here is probably as easy as: the twins' unique Elezen teen body is easier to work with than something like Lyse's custom red dress (which already looks a bit funky and stretched if your character has larger breasts than it was intended to accommodate.) Even with a lot of tweaking it's probably close to impossible to make it look passable on a Hrothgar or male Roe, for example.
    That's the very issue That's being brought into question. Why are the male outfit unisex, but not any female ones. As mentioned prior with the job gear for Thancred, Urianger, and Alphinaud. Why couldn't Y'shtola or Alisaie's new outfit been job gear as well.

    Alphinaud's HW attire is the only unique outfit that is available for both genders, so it feels odd. However, we won't know for certain how this plays out exactly until one of Alisaie's outfits possibly becomes available. That's why I made that suggestion. If her outfits are unisex as well then is "okay", since as people stated they share a model. But if her outfit is genderlocked, then that just adds to the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    That wasn't the point of this topic. It's still Alphinaud's outfit. We don't know how things will proceed because we don't have either of Alisaie's outfits yet, so only time will tell.

    Additionally, this would mean Zero's outfit should be unisex as well given the model she uses.


    That's the very issue That's being brought into question. Why are the male outfit unisex, but not any female ones. As mentioned prior with the job gear for Thancred, Urianger, and Alphinaud. Why couldn't Y'shtola or Alisaie's new outfit been job gear as well.

    Alphinaud's HW attire is the only unique outfit that is available for both genders, so it feels odd. However, we won't know for certain how this plays out exactly until one of Alisaie's outfits possibly becomes available. That's why I made that suggestion. If her outfits are unisex as well then is "okay", since as people stated they share a model. But if her outfit is genderlocked, then that just adds to the issue.
    Which is why I already said Alphinaud's Heavensward outfit is the singular exception, NOT the rule. I could give you a list of male NPC outfits that are just as genderlocked as Y'shtola's and Lyse's, but you seem to be ignoring this fact for some reason. They don't make male outfits work for females - they made ONE male outfit work for females because it was made for a simple model that doesn't provide the complications of some of the other outfits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caro178 View Post
    Which is why I already said Alphinaud's Heavensward outfit is the singular exception, NOT the rule. I could give you a list of male NPC outfits that are just as genderlocked as Y'shtola's and Lyse's, but you seem to be ignoring this fact for some reason. They don't make male outfits work for females - they made ONE male outfit work for females because it was made for a simple model that doesn't provide the complications of some of the other outfits.
    I think you missed my point.
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