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  1. #21
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    It seems like it would make more sense to display the portraits while you're loading. Either before you enter, as each person confirms participation, or over the black screen as you load in. But it's too distracting having them show up where they do, while you're already travelling through the dungeon.
    For sure it would, but the load screen is loading the data needed for the portraits. I think a compromise here would be adding a new element to the UI that allows players to click on it to display the character portraits. The sticker can vanish on its own after a certain period of time, or players can elect to not have it show up at all by disabling it in their UI settings. This way they can also give the players the option how they would like the grid displayed, whether it be 1x8, or 2x4, vertical or horizontal, size option, and where exactly on the screen the portraits appear.

    I really do like this feature though. It think it's really neat, and I love being able to see close ups of my party members. It just needs some fine tuning for those who want to see them.
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  2. #22
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    Junpei Iorii
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    Sargatanas
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    They are killing this fun system it seems every patch. Been gone a year and things worked fine but now the the dungeon ones are hideous.
    Why are they small af and why are they shown AS you're running? Just do it before we all load or in the barrier.

    That and the portrait system itself is extremely buggy and broken and from what I've read it's been like this for months.
    It's actually kinda sad to see the state of the games quality it's going down so badly like this, that even simple things
    like portraits can't be done correctly lmao. Wow.
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  3. #23
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    They are killing this fun system it seems every patch. Been gone a year and things worked fine but now the the dungeon ones are hideous.
    Why are they small af and why are they shown AS you're running? Just do it before we all load or in the barrier.
    That and the portraits themselves are extremely buggy and broken and from what I've read it's been like this for months.
    It's actually kinda sad to see the state of the games quality it's going down so badly like this, that even simple things
    like portraits can't be done correctly lmao. Wow.
    The issue with the portrait system is, at least in my opinion, that they got it right the first time around and they only needed to add on to or refine what was there. Instead, they just...turned the entire system on its head and seemingly started over. Either they don't know what they want, or they have no idea what they are doing with it. I'm honestly not sure what the issue is. Either way yeah, I also feel that the general quality of some things has gone downhill since EW started. The game seems to be lacking the polish it once had. It has been going on for a while though I think, but it has just been way more prominent recently. It's not all terrible or else I wouldn't be here, but the mistakes I've seen them make these past however many months have been almost physically painful to witness.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 01-14-2023 at 12:58 PM.

  4. #24
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    They are killing this fun system it seems every patch. Been gone a year and things worked fine but now the the dungeon ones are hideous.
    Why are they small af and why are they shown AS you're running? Just do it before we all load or in the barrier.

    That and the portrait system itself is extremely buggy and broken and from what I've read it's been like this for months.
    It's actually kinda sad to see the state of the games quality it's going down so badly like this, that even simple things
    like portraits can't be done correctly lmao. Wow.
    They've been working fine for me for months, but what do I know?
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  5. #25
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    Khara Relanah
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin_satron View Post
    because of low resolution 4:3 resolution players
    Do you honestly think anyone is playing this game on a CRT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    They've been working fine for me for months, but what do I know?
    Yes, technically the portrait system is functional, but it's janky as all get out. I imagine you can even see where there is room for improvement, but thine fingers would never let you blaspheme in that way. Besides, prodding the playerbase if more fun anyway.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Yes, technically the portrait system is functional, but it's janky as all get out. I imagine you can even see where there is room for improvement, but thine fingers would never let you blaspheme in that way. Besides, prodding the playerbase if more fun anyway.
    It's actually not fun. It's sad to see people not listen or follow simple instructions. I've laid it out repeatedly and SE gave clear instructions. Folks just wanna be mad for the sake of it.

    I'm honestly content with it and I'm helping my friends get theirs sorted out.
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  8. #28
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    Tysilio Leorei
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    It's actually not fun. It's sad to see people not listen or follow simple instructions. I've laid it out repeatedly and SE gave clear instructions. Folks just wanna be mad for the sake of it.

    I'm honestly content with it and I'm helping my friends get theirs sorted out.
    In-duty portraits works fine, BUT...

    I really, REALLY don't like having to update each portrait when I just change the headgear visibility, it just sucks. I don't want to open 2 windows and click 3 buttons each time I change a tiny part of my gearset/glamour. It's an extremely tedious process. I don't expect a player that is currently going through the MSQ to do this every time that they loot new gear (which is very often). You know that something is wrong when you see 99% of the people you play duties (or even CC) with have default portraits.

    There is no instructions to start with. It's not displayed anywhere that you need to re-save your portraits each time you change something on your gearsets, other than an error message saying that your current gearset and portrait do not match when you start a duty.

    If they don't want to auto-save portraits when the gearset changes, they could at least fall back to the adventurer plate's portrait.

    I really like in-duty portraits, but because of how the actual portraits system works, it's useless. I was really hoping they would fix the underlying system before trying to display it in more places.
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    Last edited by Tysilio; 01-18-2023 at 09:00 AM.

  9. #29
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    The issue with the portrait system is, at least in my opinion, that they got it right the first time around and they only needed to add on to or refine what was there. Instead, they just...turned the entire system on its head and seemingly started over.
    This thread is covering in-duty portrait display, which was not implemented until this patch. There are plenty of other threads already where players have congregated to gripe about the inefficacy of the portrait system.

    The 'in-duty' portrait system is a pretty cool feature. If you don't like it, you don't have to use it at all, and we were informed prior to release that you can just turn it off if you don't like it, or don't want anything to do with it. You can simply use that option and be done with it. This thread should really focus on how to make it better for those of us who do enjoy it.

    That's not to say that the in-duty portrait system isn't currently cumbersome, and actually discourages making changes to your character's appearance. However, because this is so new, the feedback whether through direct representation, or a message in a bottle is highly encouraged to get this feature working correctly. Banding together like a mob with torches and pitchforks at every opportunity to express dissatisfaction with the system, the expansion, and the game overall isn't going to help or accomplish anything for anyone, including yourself.
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    Xelanar Fhey
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    Shiva
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    I like the idea. I'd rather have my adventurer plate portrait be displayed though.
    Why is maching gear and job on a portrait even a thing? Who cares if I'm wearing Summoner gear on a portrait while doing a dungeon as a Reaper? Or if I'm using a job-specific pose, while not being on that job?

    Certainly not because of immersion, considering I can slap a Namazu head on my character just fine.

    This is such an unnecessary, annoying restriction to have.

    Just let us design tons of portraits and attach them to gear sets. No restrictions >.<.
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