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    Quote Originally Posted by Rollout View Post
    Mantra also only works on GCDs, whereas Arcane Crest just broke and provide a HoT to EVERYONE rather than just the Reaper.
    I'm pretty sure Mantra works on all healing actions(oGCDs included). The wording is "Increases HP recovery via healing actions by 10% for self and nearby party members."

    It's when the wording states "Increases healing magic potency"(such as for Temperance and Neutral Sect) that it only works for healing spells/GCDs".
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    Quote Originally Posted by nguyentri11 View Post
    I'm pretty sure Mantra works on all healing actions(oGCDs included). The wording is "Increases HP recovery via healing actions by 10% for self and nearby party members."

    It's when the wording states "Increases healing magic potency"(such as for Temperance and Neutral Sect) that it only works for healing spells/GCDs".
    Yes. Incoming healing amount buffs affect all healing. Outgoing only affects GCDs/spells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    Yes. Incoming healing amount buffs affect all healing. Outgoing only affects GCDs/spells.
    Not correct and I can prove it.



    Signal words:
    Incoming -> Recovery, received from
    Outgoing -> Potency
    Spell only -> Magic Potency, by Healing Magic
    All Actions -> Healing Actions

    I won't blame you for not knowing any better, as the only "all-actions outgoing" boost is on Astrodyne right now and actions that boosted incoming recovery by Healing Magic were dated since Shadowbringers came out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Not correct and I can prove it.



    Signal words:
    Incoming -> Recovery, received from
    Outgoing -> Potency
    Spell only -> Magic Potency, by Healing Magic
    All Actions -> Healing Actions

    I won't blame you for not knowing any better, as the only "all-actions outgoing" boost is on Astrodyne right now and actions that boosted incoming recovery by Healing Magic were dated since Shadowbringers came out.
    Mmm. This was a useful rule of thumb in Shadowbringers, but I see they're tweaking things around again. Which is fine...or rather, it would be if they were tweaking things in a consistent way instead of returning to the seemingly random pattern we had before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    Mmm. This was a useful rule of thumb in Shadowbringers, but I see they're tweaking things around again. Which is fine...or rather, it would be if they were tweaking things in a consistent way instead of returning to the seemingly random pattern we had before.
    The rule of thumb makes a lot of sense when you check what actions tend do be improving recovery and which improve healing output. Most healing output enhancing skills were put on Healers, with them dominantly being for Spells as Abilities tend to already be good enough, so it incentivises GCD usage for power healing.

    On the flipside a lot of recovery enhancing effects tend to be on DPS roles (and also Thrill of Battle but it looks like I forgot that one), with Sage being an exception I suppose. Likely to put it as the shield healer with more healing throughput (i.e. some sort of WHM-SCH hybrid).
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