Best part of a new patch? Third party tools not working.

[caffe_macchiato]

FFXIV in 2023:

[Midareyukki]

FFXIV in 2023:

sure, keep pretending like that hasn't always been the case nor that it hasn't been the same for other MMOs.

[caffe_macchiato]

sure, keep pretending like that hasn't always been the case nor that it hasn't been the same for other MMOs.

Version 2.0 of XIVLauncher came out in 2019 with the Dalamud API. Cactpot came out in 2017. Not "always the case". Also, we're not "other MMOs". Did you forget the past nine years where it wasn't totally Gucci to run cheats in FFXIV?

[Packetdancer]

Cactpot came out in 2017.

Completely side pet-peeve here, but... "cactpot" is the Gold Saucer lottery game, while "cactbot" is the raid automation tool that is named in reference to the former.

[Midareyukki]

Version 2.0 of XIVLauncher came out in 2019 with the Dalamud API. Cactpot came out in 2017. Not "always the case". Also, we're not "other MMOs". Did you forget the past nine years where it wasn't totally Gucci to run cheats in FFXIV?

You also forget that not every piece of third party tool has the same evil as the ones you think.

Shaders are greenlit because you're not altering anything in the game.
Discuss it however you see fit, but parsers are a gray area where the only evil is something that IS reported.
Then you have plug-ins that are objectively a red area.

Also, I really don't care whether we are like other MMOs or not? One thing is that our ToS saying that and however it's enforced. Did you know that GW2's ToS also says "No third party tools", and the ones that are out there specifically say that they're technically not legal but nothing happens to you if you keep quiet? HMM, SOUNDS TO ME LIKE A CERTAIN LAUNCHER NOW DOESN'T IT?

So no, caffe. Unfortunately, we ARE like other MMOs. And it doesn't matter how we approach them or not, even if others were even more anal about this than FF14 is, someone somewhere would STILL make plugins for the game and circumvent it.

The point of what I said wasn't even "oh look, we're just like WoW, we NEED plugins". It's that other games have third party tools, FF14 isn't the only one where people stop functioning once plugins stop working. Every game out there is bound to have it, it's not a thing inherent to us. And it's definitely not something that comes up now.

You go as far back as 2017. I've been playing since 2016. I KNOW THAT xD The issue is that even in 2017, the people who did use plugins weren't reliant on them. THAT'S what I mean.

[Ransu]

sure, keep pretending like that hasn't always been the case nor that it hasn't been the same for other MMOs.

You know like a good percentage of raiders are on console right?

OP sounds like a Fox news or right wing announcer.
Blustered and angry, trying to incite rage over their personal beliefs, regardless of how wrong they are, or how little the issue affects them.

I use a 3rd party tool to play the game too and im glad it works regardless of the patch cycle.
I mean, without windows 10, a 3rd party tool, my mouse and keyboard wouldn't work nor would the game!
I also use Nvidia software to enhance my graphics like a total monster OP claims we all are lol.
I keep in touch with my FC through Discord, so that's 3 named 3rd party tools i use, and likely countless to keep the game running i don't know exist but im using lol.

0 out of 10 post OP

No one cares about your political BS.

[Saraide]

You know like a good percentage of raiders are on console right?



No one cares about your political BS.

I care. The comparison with fox news is apt because like they declared themselves no reasonable viewer would or should take news anchors like tucker carlson seriously and that his statements arent facts but pure hyperbole.

[Ransu]

I care. The comparison with fox news is apt because like they declared themselves no reasonable viewer would or should take news anchors like tucker carlson seriously and that his statements arent facts but pure hyperbole.

Stop being a slave to politics.

[Saraide]

Stop being a slave to politics.

That's such a Gamer thing to say.

[Joven]

That's such a Gamer thing to say.

Because wanting to keep Western politics and ideologies out of entertainment is wrong apparently.