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    I think the point is that people want stuff to work out of the box. It's nice if some QoL gets implemented no matter how (looking at you, buff timers).

    I just don't like the fact that you buy a game and then you are expected to download 10 add-ons or you are out. That's BS. I take whatever SE implements and may use the one that mustn't be named that starts with p when I play on PC but other than that I'm not going out of my way. I think how the other MMO does it is utterly ridiculous in that regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    I think the point is that people want stuff to work out of the box. It's nice if some QoL gets implemented no matter how (looking at you, buff timers).

    I just don't like the fact that you buy a game and then you are expected to download 10 add-ons or you are out. That's BS.
    Players should not expect other players to download addons. But SE should also not expect players to not create and download addons that fix blatant mistakes and oversights in the game's design. QoL and common sense should be there from the beginning. Players shouldn't need an addon to put ears back on their Hrothgar. They shouldn't have needed an addon that stops the camera from spinning in Legacy mode and shows the length of people's buffs and debuffs. Why did it take 10 years to fix something like that? In base game we still cannot see the damage type of an attack being cast despite the fact that damage reduction abilities only work when used during the cast.

    And players should not need an addon to fix the issue where lag prevents people from double or single weaving, that the devs don't even realise is an issue despite the threads about it and at least two addons that exist to fix the problem. SE even needed players to find what was wrong with the login queue at EW launch. The devs really need to take a hard look at the defects in their product, and luckily it seems like they are starting to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    I think the point is that people want stuff to work out of the box. It's nice if some QoL gets implemented no matter how (looking at you, buff timers).

    I just don't like the fact that you buy a game and then you are expected to download 10 add-ons or you are out. That's BS. I take whatever SE implements and may use the one that mustn't be named that starts with p when I play on PC but other than that I'm not going out of my way. I think how the other MMO does it is utterly ridiculous in that regard.
    Their party their rules.

    You're free to start your own static where it's not mandatory.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    SE can fix that with their client, and they should, likewise stop recording to combat logs as well.

    And yes they should due to it creates an unfair advantage against Console users.
    The day they ever break ACT to a point where it can't get around their anti-"cheat" is the day their raid scene dies. And they know that. Which is one of the reasons they're never going to touch parsers but forever keep them in a grey area. It's simply far too beneficial for them.

    If you're primarily referring to triggers and such. Several of the well known programs can get around the battle log if they ever needed to. The only way you're breaking add-ons is through anti-cheat software everyone will be forced to download. Which creates its own problem, and may not even work. Guild Wars 2 tried that when mods started becoming more prevalent. People got around it within a week. Much like ACT, Square simply benefits too much from the sheer number of people using mods nowadays. Losing ten of thousands of subs just to for the sake of purity isn't something they'll want to do.
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    FFXIV in 2023:

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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    FFXIV in 2023:

    sure, keep pretending like that hasn't always been the case nor that it hasn't been the same for other MMOs.
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    OP sounds like a Fox news or right wing announcer.
    Blustered and angry, trying to incite rage over their personal beliefs, regardless of how wrong they are, or how little the issue affects them.

    I use a 3rd party tool to play the game too and im glad it works regardless of the patch cycle.
    I mean, without windows 10, a 3rd party tool, my mouse and keyboard wouldn't work nor would the game!
    I also use Nvidia software to enhance my graphics like a total monster OP claims we all are lol.
    I keep in touch with my FC through Discord, so that's 3 named 3rd party tools i use, and likely countless to keep the game running i don't know exist but im using lol.

    0 out of 10 post OP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sililos View Post
    OP sounds like a Fox news or right wing announcer.
    Blustered and angry, trying to incite rage over their personal beliefs, regardless of how wrong they are, or how little the issue affects them.
    Imagine dragging politics into this and expecting anyone to believe rage bating is only the tool of one side.
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    Gamers don't die, we just go AFK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    Imagine dragging politics into this and expecting anyone to believe rage bating is only the tool of one side.
    What could possibly go wrong?
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    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    What could possibly go wrong?
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    Gamers don't die, we just go AFK

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