How SE is alienating talented players

[Yves]

I think the word "talent" revolving around a videogame is an oxymoron...

[Jeffdogg]

I think the word "talent" revolving around a videogame is an oxymoron...

Lol yeah but it makes the people that need to play video games to get a sense of accomplishment cause they fail at real life. So talented they feel

[Jynx]

I think the word "talent" revolving around a videogame is an oxymoron...

Lol yeah but it makes the people that need to play video games to get a sense of accomplishment cause they fail at real life. So talented they feel

Oh my looks like someone needs a hug. No need to be so Condescending.

[Yves]

Oh my looks like someone needs a hug, that or your both just condescending jerks.

Nope, just illustrating a cultural shift that may represent a generational gap. At no point was my comment insinuating anything but a simple observation. The very idea that "talent" can be represented in an environment in which no such aspects are present is funny. Talent, as it stands, requires an act of physicality. This is why physicists and programers are "gifted" and athletes and entertainers are "talented" - both sets require aspects of ability that are not present in videogames. If anything, games are indicative of the ability to identify trends, cooperate, and react to situations in an artificial setting. These drivers are more closely related to functions of "skill" and/or "awareness."

In reality, the fact that people are redefining what "talent" is lends itself to the question of placation.

In closing, the very fact that you automatically took an objective observation (rooted in common empirical evidence) to be condescending indicates that you yourself may need a hug and/or are a jerk.

Sorry you missed that point.

[Exni]

Nope, just illustrating a cultural shift that may represent a generational gap. At no point was my comment insinuating anything but a simple observation. The very idea that "talent" can be represented in an environment in which no such aspects are present is funny. Talent, as it stands, requires an act of physicality. This is why physicists and programers are "gifted" and athletes and entertainers are "talented" - both sets require aspects of ability that are not present in videogames. If anything, games are indicative of the ability to identify trends, cooperate, and react to situations in an artificial setting. These drivers are more closely related to functions of "skill" and/or "awareness."

In reality, the fact that people are redefining what "talent" is lends itself to the question of placation.

In closing, the very fact that you automatically took an objective observation (rooted in common empirical evidence) to be condescending indicates that you yourself may need a hug and/or are a jerk.

Sorry you missed that point.

I would just like you to know... that none of that made any sense.

[Jeffdogg]

I would just like you to know... that none of that made any sense.

Maybe to you.

[Matsume]

I think the word "talent" revolving around a videogame is an oxymoron...

Lol yeah but it makes the people that need to play video games to get a sense of accomplishment cause they fail at real life. So talented they feel

Oh my looks like someone needs a hug. No need to be so Condescending.

Nope, just illustrating a cultural shift that may represent a generational gap. At no point was my comment insinuating anything but a simple observation. The very idea that "talent" can be represented in an environment in which no such aspects are present is funny. Talent, as it stands, requires an act of physicality. This is why physicists and programers are "gifted" and athletes and entertainers are "talented" - both sets require aspects of ability that are not present in videogames. If anything, games are indicative of the ability to identify trends, cooperate, and react to situations in an artificial setting. These drivers are more closely related to functions of "skill" and/or "awareness."

In reality, the fact that people are redefining what "talent" is lends itself to the question of placation.

In closing, the very fact that you automatically took an objective observation (rooted in common empirical evidence) to be condescending indicates that you yourself may need a hug and/or are a jerk.

Sorry you missed that point.

I know this isn't any of my business, but I would like to point out that the condesending remark was directed at and originated from Jeffdogg in response to your prior remark.

I don't think Jynx implied that your oxymoron was condescing but rather Jeffdogg's personal interpretation that "it makes the people that need to play video games to get a sense of accomplishment cause they fail at real life", is condescending in that Jeffdogg is implying that video game players incorporate a sense of talent where none is needed to make themselves feel better for failing at life.

Although your analysis of gifted scientist and talented athletes is correct, it would be wise for Jeffdogg not to go around insulting players and calling them failures at life when they misinterpreted the meaning of one word (talent) with that of another (skill). Mind you there are younger players amongst us that might not yet be as proficient as you in the english language.

Sorry you missed the point.

[Jeffdogg]

I know this isn't any of my business, but I would like to point out that the condesending remark was directed at and originated from Jeffdogg in response to your prior remark.

I don't think Jynx implied that your oxymoron was condescing but rather Jeffdogg's personal interpretation that[COLOR=red] "it makes the people that need to play video games to get a sense of accomplishment cause they fail at real life" [/COLOR ] is condescending in that Jeffdogg is implying that video game players incorporate a sense of talent where none is needed to make themselves feel better for failing at life.

Although your analysis of gifted scientist and talented athletes is correct, it would be wise for Jeffdogg not to go around insulting players and calling them failures at life when they misinterpreted the meaning of one word (talent) with that of another (skill). Mind you there are younger players amongst us that might not yet be as proficient as you in the english language.

Sorry you missed the point.

Well since im not directing what I said at anybody, im not insulting anyone except the people who take it personally therefore them being the ones I am referring to. Its up to them to consider themselves one of those people. If nobody believes at what I am saying is true then I am insulting nobody at all...

And it was not condescending, I was merely making a statement. Once again if anybody takes offense to it or feels insulted by it. Well thats them and just shows what I said was right (not saying I am right, but if people get insulted by it there has to be some truth making it not condescension)

[Totobi]

Although your analysis of gifted scientist and talented athletes is correct, it would be wise for Jeffdogg not to go around insulting players and calling them failures at life when they misinterpreted the meaning of one word (talent) with that of another (skill). Mind you there are younger players amongst us that might not yet be as proficient as you in the english language.

Even so, there is hardly any skill involved. It seems 98% of players wait for the video to come up on youtube then follow that strategy and class set-up (which mostly involves stacking one class) until it works for them (76.87% of statistics are made up though, of course).

Doing something hundreds of times makes anyone better at anything, too.

[Peeka]

Even so, there is hardly any skill involved. It seems 98% of players wait for the video to come up on youtube then follow that strategy and class set-up (which mostly involves stacking one class) until it works for them (76.87% of statistics are made up though, of course).

Doing something hundreds of times makes anyone better at anything, too.

Sure you can wait for the video and follow the strategy step by step. However, it does take some degree of skill to execute it effectively. If it was as easy as you said it was then everyone would have the 5 chest clear by now.