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    Jace Ossura
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleOneOne View Post
    Rant time
    Lets talk defensives first. Old PLD had one less personal, but could still clear all content as OT and MT. So saying it NEEDED Bulwark in an emergency rework is dumb. If it came out as a expansion leveling action I wouldn't care are all.
    I will say the idea of having more mit is great, but Bulwark isn't it champ. Block is the problem! SE clearly knows that by taking it off sheltron. The only use I see for Bulwark is I guess autos?
    Regarding Divine Veil... With the changes to HS and Confiteor procing it why remove the 'jank' of needed the heal to pop it. Having the ability to use DV early so that it would be off cool down for raid wides closer than 90s was nice. I also could've sworn the old version did a small heal AND shield.
    PoA haters. STOP. It is an extra party wide mit. You can weave it and for a GCD you get the mit WITH NO LOSS OF DAMAGE! If you are complaining about it only working behind you, how do you want it to work? be another bubble?
    Now Holy sheltron. Please correct me if I'm wrong but the blocking was taking off this action for bleeds? Did I not read the "Knight's Resolve" effect right? Did it not already do exactly what people were saying it didn't? Also why is this effect still in the game? is it 30% for the first 4 seconds?
    Cover is trash still. Why ever use it over intervention? Speaking of which to Sheltron or intervention, that is the question. "Sorry co-tank I can't put my targetable on you, I used it on my personal earlier." Why make these a shared 'cooldown' and why make the gauge be based on auto attacks. It makes as much sense as having it be based of damage received.
    Bulwark is added as a situational bonus CD, similar to Camoflauge, Darkmind, and Thrill of Battle. If anything it's one of the better ones, primarily because block applies to everything but bleeds. In other words, if they diversify their busters, all the 60/90 sit-CDs are roughly the same. Block still reduces non-True damage that isn't DoT based. It will work on initial buster hits.

    I think anyone who liked old DV was making excuses. Sure, you had some fringe cases of unique use, but I'll maintain those suckers were stockholmed by how it worked just like every version of Machinist suckered people into liking it.

    PoA could be better.

    It's 15% + 15%, just like Heart of Corundrum. You can also RNG block or stack Bulwark on top of it for even more mitigation if you really want to. There's literally no downside to this change.

    Cover lets you save someone, in a manner that requires very few other conditions to be present. Every other tank-helper comes with caveats, of needing enough baseline HP for the mitigation to matter, that TBN is much weaker on non-tanks, or if you have the time to pump health into them from warriors. Cover is click the button, that person is safe at your expense. This iteration isn't meant to be for your co-tank, but it can be used in some situations for them.
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    Double One-one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    I think anyone who liked old DV was making excuses. Sure, you had some fringe cases of unique use, but I'll maintain those suckers were stockholmed by how it worked just like every version of Machinist suckered people into liking it.

    PoA could be better.
    Stockholmed? Was it that hard to ask a heal from your healers? and I guess all of P7S is a fringe case cause I kept it on cooldown most fight with out any assistance and it being useful every time. With the new rotation could you not wait 15.5 to pop it your self? The buff is a shield not mit and it lasts 30s after it pops. So you could put it up at any time in the fight still.

    You make a strong point about PoA.
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleOneOne View Post
    Stockholmed? Was it that hard to ask a heal from your healers? and I guess all of P7S is a fringe case cause I kept it on cooldown most fight with out any assistance and it being useful every time. With the new rotation could you not wait 15.5 to pop it your self? The buff is a shield not mit and it lasts 30s after it pops. So you could put it up at any time in the fight still.

    You make a strong point about PoA.
    Here's the thing, it's like BRD's Nature's Minne.

    They've lost the strong synergy with SCH shield but instead got much more applications.
    The same happens to Divine Veil, you lose the few cases where its gimmick was good but you win much more applications.
    A barrier that can be delayed is sometimes good, but a barrier that instantly applies is always better.
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