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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Throwing matches is a norm and has been since Feast days. It's incredibly easy to get into the same match as your friends and throw to help their ranks go up if you end up on opposing teams. ToS violation or not, people are actively doing it. This is why I'm very firm against a legit ranked competition coming back with exclusive rewards behind it because it will just become Feast 2.0 even more than it already is.
    Sure, we can take that as an argument. But that was mainly, because not many ppl actually played Feast, so PvP culture was very small and it was much more easy to see same ppl over and over again.

    But now, CC is actually big. It made PvP casual friendly. Nobody throws ranked now, its dead completly, because there is literally 0 reason to do it. Why would you do dead ranked with 0 rewards, when you can just quee casuals and actually get matches? PvP community is now much bigger, that if they made ranked alive by giving it rewards, actually trying to wintrade with current quee changes would be much more harder than it was during feast.

    Ppl who throw casuals are ppl like Jamie, who plays PvP just because they wanted to get that series mount. But those players would never compete in ranked, because of skill issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy View Post
    Sure, we can take that as an argument. But that was mainly, because not many ppl actually played Feast, so PvP culture was very small and it was much more easy to see same ppl over and over again.
    And this didn't stop it from happening even in CC season 1 where the mode was the most active And not nearly everyone got punished for it even when a few did
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy View Post
    Sure, we can take that as an argument. But that was mainly, because not many ppl actually played Feast, so PvP culture was very small and it was much more easy to see same ppl over and over again.

    But now, CC is actually big. It made PvP casual friendly. Nobody throws ranked now, its dead completly, because there is literally 0 reason to do it. Why would you do dead ranked with 0 rewards, when you can just quee casuals and actually get matches? PvP community is now much bigger, that if they made ranked alive by giving it rewards, actually trying to wintrade with current quee changes would be much more harder than it was during feast.

    Ppl who throw casuals are ppl like Jamie, who plays PvP just because they wanted to get that series mount. But those players would never compete in ranked, because of skill issues.
    The weird thing is that a good ranked structure would help people who arent good at pvp far more than an unrestricted casual queue. Ideally a ranked structure groups you up with people of your skill level, making matches a lot more balanced than grouping up the worst silver 3 fools on one team and the best crystal 1 nerds on the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy View Post
    Sure, we can take that as an argument. But that was mainly, because not many ppl actually played Feast, so PvP culture was very small and it was much more easy to see same ppl over and over again.

    But now, CC is actually big. It made PvP casual friendly. Nobody throws ranked now, its dead completly, because there is literally 0 reason to do it. Why would you do dead ranked with 0 rewards, when you can just quee casuals and actually get matches? PvP community is now much bigger, that if they made ranked alive by giving it rewards, actually trying to wintrade with current quee changes would be much more harder than it was during feast.

    Ppl who throw casuals are ppl like Jamie, who plays PvP just because they wanted to get that series mount. But those players would never compete in ranked, because of skill issues.
    I mean, something as simple as rank flexing is enough reward for some. Look at those who pay for a carry through ultimate just for the ability to wear the title as an example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy View Post
    Sure, we can take that as an argument. But that was mainly, because not many ppl actually played Feast, so PvP culture was very small and it was much more easy to see same ppl over and over again.

    But now, CC is actually big. It made PvP casual friendly. Nobody throws ranked now, its dead completly, because there is literally 0 reason to do it. Why would you do dead ranked with 0 rewards, when you can just quee casuals and actually get matches? PvP community is now much bigger, that if they made ranked alive by giving it rewards, actually trying to wintrade with current quee changes would be much more harder than it was during feast.

    Ppl who throw casuals are ppl like Jamie, who plays PvP just because they wanted to get that series mount. But those players would never compete in ranked, because of skill issues.
    Did you just accuse me of throwing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    Did you just accuse me of throwing?
    I think what they mean to imply is that you are not very good at pvp which in turn could easily make the people that are playing with you think it was infact you that is throwing the same way you think they are the ones throwing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    I think what they mean to imply is that you are not very good at pvp which in turn could easily make the people that are playing with you think it was infact you that is throwing the same way you think they are the ones throwing.
    I never claimed to be good at it, but I never throw a game as a matter of principle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    I never claimed to be good at it, but I never throw a game as a matter of principle.
    Even when I'm losing, I try to be as big of a thorn in the other team's side that I can, even if it's stalling their victory by only a few seconds. Or I'll chase down the player that has annoyed me the entire match. If I'm going down, I'm taking someone with me.
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    Everyone you think is throwing could very well think the same of you.
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