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  1. #851
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyjacon View Post
    You're not looking at the big picture though.

    There are two ways a company deals with increased workload.
    1. increase manpower by shifting workers from other activities, ie. content, or
    2. increase manpower by increasing staff, more money.

    So, we either end up with less content less often, ie. pushing out patches every 6 months with less content and expansions every three years, OR increase the sub price to compensate for increased payroll.
    Which one would you suggest?
    Pretty sure SE is actively looking for more staff, so filling current openings aren't going to increase sub price lol
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    More staff for what positions?
    What is SE's accepted cost vs. expense ratio in FFXIV?
    What is SE's minimum profit ratio in FFXIV to remain viable to continue?

    Again, big picture.
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  3. #853
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    Now we are acting like SE is some small indi team. That is not about the big picture SE has the resources to do both.
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    Okay boomer.

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    I'm glad you have access to SE's financials, please share.

    Without knowing what percentage of income is net profit for the entire SE company or how much is budgeted to the CBU3, "they have the resources to do both" is pure conjecture on your part.
    I'll assume you've never owned a company, am I right?

    We are all entitled to our own opinions.
    With that in mind and the fact that this isn't the topic of this thread, I'll bow out now .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyjacon View Post
    I'm glad you have access to SE's financials, please share.

    Without knowing what percentage of income is net profit for the entire SE company or how much is budgeted to the CBU3, "they have the resources to do both" is pure conjecture on your part.
    I'll assume you've never owned a company, am I right?

    We are all entitled to our own opinions.
    With that in mind and the fact that this isn't the topic of this thread, I'll bow out now .
    It is a choice SE makes to not allocate more resources into FFXIV, and use the revenue generated from FFXIV into other projects. Let us not pretend SE if they wanted to does not have the resources to do both, unless you believe SE is running at a financial deficit.

    Sure it may increase overhead and thus decrease overall profits but this is then getting into a different topic regarding on what major corporations do to maximize profits. Though it is disingenuous to claim SE is not capable of funding a more robust special forces and a GM / community team. They just do nor because they do not feel it is worth it.

    Not a CEO, but I am a partner, sure if we cut some corners skimmed some some staff we could reduce overhead, or shift some production cost onto the customer, reduce healthcare costs etc . . .Instead we choose to take the hit to maximize customer and employee satisfaction. That said we only have one product. Things are different for major corporations that are juggling multiple products. That said I doubt SE is hurting and I doubt it would have a major impact on profits. In the end one of the quickest and cleanest ways to reduce overhead is the CS department. So I get it, in terms of importance for a major corporation it is probably the least important aspect.

    End of the day FFXIV is most likely the product that gets just enough funding to stay relevant and profitable. Given enough to add features that keep it fresh and draw in new people. Hell I would not even be shocked if most their budget was allocated to marketing.
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    Last edited by Bobby66; 01-08-2023 at 06:13 AM.

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    looking at that mog station store and the 50 buck mounts and 30 buck 1 character limited glamour, they got money
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyjacon View Post
    I'm glad you have access to SE's financials, please share.

    Without knowing what percentage of income is net profit for the entire SE company or how much is budgeted to the CBU3, "they have the resources to do both" is pure conjecture on your part.
    I'll assume you've never owned a company, am I right?

    We are all entitled to our own opinions.
    With that in mind and the fact that this isn't the topic of this thread, I'll bow out now .
    https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/library/ar.html

    Contains the link to se 2022 financial report
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  8. #858
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/library/ar.html

    Contains the link to se 2022 financial report
    A Relevant Snippet:
    Net sales and operating income in the Digital Entertainment segment totaled ¥279,679 million (an increase of 6.0% from the prior fiscal year), and ¥58,960 million (an increase of 16.7% from the prior fiscal year), respectively.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 01-08-2023 at 09:27 AM.

  9. #859
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    Are ya winning son?

    What!? After 86 pages they still haven't agreed to your own point of view? Well maybe within the next 86 pages they will finally see your side.

    Keep at it Champ!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Are ya winning son?

    What!? After 86 pages they still haven't agreed to your own point of view? Well maybe within the next 86 pages they will finally see your side.

    Keep at it Champ!
    The irony is mind, with open data, facts were given, kinda relevant to the topic.

    Not even being toxic in any way either.
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