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    VelKallor's Avatar
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    Vel Kallor
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    See and here's the issue with this last part, anyone impeding someone's play by being garbage is factually in the wrong
    Yet, and I highlight this, your definition of "garbage" is nebulous at best, as it is a throwaway term that has no set definitions.No parameters. No set boundaries.

    I would also hazard a guess that your idea of "competency" would be so far fetched and literally impossible to achieve as makes no odds. Your attitude and approach sounds like a demand for perfection on a scale even the Borg would balk at.



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    Last edited by VelKallor; 01-06-2023 at 04:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Yet, and I highlight this, your definition of "garbage" is nebulous at best, as it is a throwaway term that has no set definitions.No parameters. No set boundaries.

    I would also hazard a guess that your idea of "competency" would be so far fetched and literally impossible to achieve as makes no odds. Your attitude and approach sounds like a demand for perfection on a scale even the Borg would balk at.



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    If it was used as a means to objectively show that a person was not performing to adequate standard would you have an issue? For the most part outside if outliers I am sure we could all agree while performing mechanics the DPS order should be DPS role Tanks, then healers?

    If a DPs role is on the bottom of the chart would it be toxic in itself to point out that fact? If someone were to say in an non aggressive or hostile matter that the person has underperformed from a objectice metric and thus will be removed, what is toxic about this? They were playing poorly I do not think anyone can say a dps being on the bottom of the charts is good play outside of a few outliers. People for the most part would acknowledge those outliers.

    If someone is hostile then you are free to report. This is the only aspect outside of the removal of.PVP chat where the community was a proactive approach to harassment instead of reactive like every other aspect of the game.
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    Okay boomer.

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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    If it was used as a means to objectively show that a person was not performing to adequate standard would you have an issue? For the most part outside if outliers I am sure we could all agree while performing mechanics the DPS order should be DPS role Tanks, then healers?

    If a DPs role is on the bottom of the chart would it be toxic in itself to point out that fact? If someone were to say in an non aggressive or hostile matter that the person has underperformed from a objectice metric and thus will be removed, what is toxic about this? They were playing poorly I do not think anyone can say a dps being on the bottom of the charts is good play outside of a few outliers. People for the most part would acknowledge those outliers.

    If someone is hostile then you are free to report. This is the only aspect outside of the removal of.PVP chat where the community was a proactive approach to harassment instead of reactive like every other aspect of the game.
    The issue is not with the underlying message being delivered to players, the issue would be the 'tone', or 'form' that this message takes on. Simply telling players that you don't think they're suitable to the party due to not performing proportionately to other members of the group is in a whole different league to telling people they're crap, that they're garbage, or taking on a condescending attitude by using some arbitrary derogatory term.

    I would also argue the context of where this message is being delivered matters equally. Unless you're actively participating with the person underperforming then the comment is irrelevant and serves absolutely no purpose, most especially when the sole purpose is used thinly to dismiss rather than judge the merit, or lack thereof of the comment. Or in this case simply used as a thinly veiled attempt to be disrespectful on the forum.

    In this regard, some people to an exemplary standard show precisely why parsing within a community has a poor stigma amongst players.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 01-07-2023 at 12:18 AM.