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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    Abuse the level sync? I don't know what you mean, but I'll try my best..[...]
    Okay, so I was thinking something different. Thank you for clarifying that \o/

    What I had in mind was to have the group prep an NM in appropriate level range. Let's say, newcomer is a lv8 in Anemos and the friend is a capped lv60 in Eureka:
    • The group can pick any NM that syncs the helper friend within 8 level in difference vs the newcomer.
    • Once the NM spawns, instead of killing off the NM, let the helper gather up mobs -around- the NMs instead while making sure the mobs aren't anywhere higher than 8 levels vs the newcomer; I find 4-6 higher levels are the sweet number. But sometimes even 1-2 or 7-8 higher levels in difference are still faster than any other cheese strats I've read due to sheer number of mobs you can pull and easily kill.
    • Drop those mobs down to critical HP then hit that "Lv Sync" before finishing off the pull while making sure both helper and newcomer can see each other's name in party list lights up.

    I'm not entirely sure how your DC's NM etiquette works. Over here if you're the prepper, the group have roughly 3 minutes before the NM is pulled provided the PT is being called, and additional 1-2 minute before the NM dies. This is plenty of time for a massive experience gain. No deleveling or exiting party required. One-two levels per NM is almost guaranteed; more if the helper is uberly geared with elemental bonus items unless the NM is pulled early for whatever reason. Bunny FATE is also available for the abuse if they're around & will not disrupt anybody in the zone.

    The only downside to this is if you happened to zone in into juiced instance with no appropriate NMs left spawn. But between Anemos' least activeness and the other 3 zones providing bunny FATEs, I find that particular situation is rather... uncommon. There's always at least 1 FATE that can be used to abuse the lv sync.

    EDIT: In other day I found somebody shouting in Pagos about leaving the lv25 NM alone to facilitate this abuse and the zone complies. They took their sweet 10 minutes before eventually decided they've had enough. While I think this is also viable, I'm not quite a fan of holding the NM on hostage, but I guess it also worked... not something I'd do though, hence my 3-5 minutes limitations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
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    Oh okay I got you! I did my Eureka runs in Aether, the etiquette was essentially as you say it, but we never did the 'Lv Sync' trick you're talking about with the NMs themselves except for some specific NM cheese for Light farm. That one's actually new to me! I think it might require too many braincells for Aether. lol

    As a solo player, you can wait for NM pop - But problem I found was the first half of the levels in each zone you're mostly left out. Hydatos doesn't have it so bad because the zone is open* and high levels are near base, so you can just sit at base and as a low level people are OK with you waiting for NM pop. This issue is especially bad in Pagos & Pyros because your selection is slim and travel is too slow/dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    Oh okay I got you! I did my Eureka runs in Aether, the etiquette was essentially as you say it, but we never did the 'Lv Sync' trick you're talking about with the NMs themselves except for some specific NM cheese for Light farm. That one's actually new to me! I think it might require too many braincells for Aether. lol

    As a solo player, you can wait for NM pop - But problem I found was the first half of the levels in each zone you're mostly left out. Hydatos doesn't have it so bad because the zone is open* and high levels are near base, so you can just sit at base and as a low level people are OK with you waiting for NM pop. This issue is especially bad in Pagos & Pyros because your selection is slim and travel is too slow/dangerous.
    All's good, glad to share the tricks.

    For first half of the levels each zone, I find this is only an issue for Anemos specifically because they don't have constant supply of low lv range of NM/FATE while the other 3 zones have virtually 100% active bunny FATE around. In Pagos, it's very easy to power level folks quickly from 17 to 24 around the south bunny FATE. From that point, the newbie friend only have to gain 3 levels elsewhere to reach lv27, which again puts them within the eligible lv range to receive experience from their lv35 helper friend's kills.

    Pyros is no different except with the added icing: logos actions, which gives more power to solo player to make their lives easier (Platebearer and Bloodbath says hello). South bunny fate lv sync can be used to easily bring the newcomer lv to 38-39 range. After that they just have to gain 2-3 additional levels to reach lv41 which puts them in eligible range to yet another cheese strat: reflect cheese up to lv50. Or 60 even if you want to count Hydatos' because the entire lv range of Hydatos can also be cheesed with reflects.

    The reason why I think they will nerf the experience gain from mob should permanent level sync became a thing is because that's essentially making the experience gain akin to the rate of reflect cheese at Pyros/Hydatos available virtually -anywhere- within Eureka, and I'm sure people know just how ridiculously fast reflect cheese method is to level up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
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    I tried Reflect, and it works - But it's only really quick in the beginning I thought then drops off. We did 2 person farming and I saw some dude trying to Reflect and we passed him up very quickly. lol

    All they really need to do to prevent the cheese is to add some physical mobs around the magic, or blood sense?

    This is all why I love Eureka, there's so much nuance to everything, and different ways to do stuff. I only wish we could sync at will to help in a non-cheese way if we wanted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    I tried Reflect, and it works - But it's only really quick in the beginning I thought then drops off. We did 2 person farming and I saw some dude trying to Reflect and we passed him up very quickly. lol
    One way to make it even faster is to let the reflector stays reflecting while the helper stays in party, killing the physical mobs around the reflector. Couldn't remember exactly how much long this process from lv42 to 50, but I think I remember reading my friend saying they only used up 2 plates of Reflects (198 reflect charges in total). Solo player using solely reflects to cheese also doesn't have to worry about travel time from each NM's sites or wait time. They can just keep going on. You are right about the diminishing return though, which usually starts to kick in once the player hits lv47. At that point if they can land themselves an active high end NM prep group they will level faster in those groups.

    All they really need to do to prevent the cheese is to add some physical mobs around the magic, or blood sense?
    This already exist.... somewhat in Hydatos mammets (far northwest corner) that people use to reflect cheese from lv50-57. If folks attempts this cheese strat during nighttime, the mammets will mutate and start performing physical attack (which guaranteed to instantly kill the reflector because they're always doing this naked lmao).
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