Fighting Desperately...

[Peptaru]

I disagree and i'ma flame the OP.

The thread is to the point of people just reminiscing and you need to be a jackass? I'm sorry you didn't like XI, but you shouldn't be able to defend XIV as it stands now. Maybe after 2.0. Its fine to disagree with someone's thoughts, but all you did was attack and name call without being provoked in the slightest. If you got called out, insulted, ignored, or ANYTHING then I could see your attitude, but you weren't. If you are just lookin to start an arguement in here that you could already find elsewhere, then my apologies, feel free to make yourself look like a jerk. If all XI is was masochism then gtfo and leave us sadists to remember the times fondly.

Edit: PS; I believe you meant XI was sadistic and we the players were masochistic. I just remarked sadist to conform to your description of XI.

[Tibian]

The thread is to the point of people just reminiscing and you need to be a jackass? I'm sorry you didn't like XI, but you shouldn't be able to defend XIV as it stands now. Maybe after 2.0. Its fine to disagree with someone's thoughts, but all you did was attack and name call without being provoked in the slightest. If you got called out, insulted, ignored, or ANYTHING then I could see your attitude, but you weren't. If you are just lookin to start an arguement in here that you could already find elsewhere, then my apologies, feel free to make yourself look like a jerk. If all XI is was masochism then gtfo and leave us sadists to remember the times fondly.

Edit: PS; I believe you meant XI was sadistic and we the players were masochistic. I just remarked sadist to conform to your description of XI.

The purpose of my post is to voice an opposing side to XI loyalists. I do not want to see XI's masochistic tendencies in 2.0 at all, even in the slightest form.

The OP is clearly deluded by his or her nostalgia for XI and claims XIV is bad because it isn't taking the antiquated concepts from XI and implementing them.

It is also very RARE that you see any of my posts defending XIV, because I in fact think the game is still in a very sour state and will continue to be until 2.0. With that being said, the current state of XIV is by far, more enjoyable to me than XI ever was due to its non-masochistic concepts.

Did XI do some correct things? Certainly, but the OP does not mention those concepts and instead focuses on what I consider the worst part of XI -- the mind numbing, persistent, body aching grind of time and monotony, and then wants to see it directly in XIV. So yes, I will be loud, critical, and very adamant against most of what the OP has to say in hopes that the CR team does see that people (such as myself) dislike 70% or more of what XI stood for and do not think that implemented XI mechanics are a good idea.

[Xoo]

The OP is clearly deluded by his or her nostalgia for XI and claims XIV is bad because it isn't taking the antiquated concepts from XI and implementing them.

It is also very RARE that you see any of my posts defending XIV, because I in fact think the game is still in a very sour state and will continue to be until 2.0. With that being said, the current state of XIV is by far, more enjoyable to me than XI ever was due to its non-masochistic concepts.

Did XI do some correct things? Certainly, but the OP does not mention those concepts and instead focuses on what I consider the worst part of XI -- the mind numbing, persistent, body aching grind of time and monotony, and then wants to see it directly in XIV. So yes, I will be loud, critical, and very adamant against most of what the OP has to say in hopes that the CR team does see that people (such as myself) dislike 70% or more of what XI stood for and do not think that implemented XI mechanics is a good idea.

Good gameplay is antiquated? Man, if that ain't the truth. You say XIV is "still in a very sour state", yet you play it, and then have the audacity to come down on those 'FFXI masochists'? Hah. Hey, if WoW was such a great game, go back to it? Apparently both XIV and XI aren't up to your high standards... lol.

How am I to point out things you favored in a game you say you didn't even like? Your last paragraph begins with nonsense, immediately followed by blatant lies (I never mentioned grinding at all - you just threw that in there for some generic XI bashing), only to end up pulling random, imaginary people and a large percentage of their imaginary opinion out of thin air to support your claims.

I appreciate your attempt, but honestly Tibian, you make a very poor case for your argument.

[Tibian]

Good gameplay is antiquated?
Man, if that ain't the truth. You say XIV is "still in a very sour state", yet you play it, and then have the audacity to come down on those 'FFXI masochists'?

Unbeknownst to you, I was not registered when subscriptions went into play because I did not think the game was fit to play. The only reason why I am subscribed right now is because I wanted to leave the server I was on for a more English populated server, my decision has been a very good one.

Hah. Hey, if WoW was such a great game, go back to it? Apparently both XIV and XI aren't up to your high standards... lol.

I am concurrently subscribed to WoW. After this patch and mergers I have enjoyed XIV to the point where I may still stay subscribed. 2.0 has much promise, and the development of XIV has certainly been a miraculous turn of events as far as "failed MMOs" come. I am willing to give games second chances if they improve, XIV certainly has.

How am I to point out things you favored in a game you say you didn't even like?

You don't have to. You pointed out the things I have no desire to see in XIV, so I voiced my opinions against yours.

only to end up pulling random, imaginary people and a large percentage of their imaginary opinion out of thin air to support his claims.

Please learn to read sufficiently.
I'll requote just to give you another chance.

So yes, I will be loud, critical, and very adamant against most of what the OP has to say in hopes that the CR team does see that people (such as myself) dislike 70% or more of what XI stood for and do not think that implemented XI mechanics is a good idea.

No where did I mention a false percentage of "people." 70% is what I attribute to the majority of the game that I think is garbage. I did not state anything about a false percentage of "people".