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    Quote Originally Posted by Effendi View Post
    If you want a game all about optimization and performance and all the baggage that comes with it, wow is available for your enjoyment.

    In general it may start with helping top tier raiders with the latest savage raid and etc, but soon enough you'll have people getting yelled in Sastasha normal for not being optimal enough.

    We already have one cesspool of an MMO, don't really need another one.
    Once again, I didn't know the TOS would suddenly say harassment is fine if a parsing tool was added to the game. And also, high end raiding in 14 literally comes with having to try for optimization.

    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    This

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKP1I7IocYU

    is a convincing argument against damage meters.
    I'm not watching an hour+ long video, but WoW's toxicity isn't only because of parsing tools. There are a lot of other factors as well, including, and I think most importantly, a GM team that isn't as strict about "no harassment" as 14's. It's really silly to pin it solely on a parsing tool when so many things contribute to the state of the community.

    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Not a sound reason but I think it would just make the devs really hate their game. They just dont share the same mentality that some people here do about it, theyre too focused on the negative side and being antagonistic with some of these debates isnt really helping your case. Like just this topic alone I can already feel the ulcers of the dev team forming from having this question show up in the community time and time again.
    If I'm being antagonistic, it's because I'm getting so exasperated of the same old excuses, that are purely hypothetical and doomsdaying and don't actually have much merit, being spouted throughout the thread.

    I've said it multiple times already, I don't personally care if a parsing tool is added to the game, just... have a good argument behind your case for not including them. Using WoW as a boogieman is not a good excuse, nor is anecdotal evidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Delis View Post
    I think Yoshi's stance is a good one. He leans to his one side and tells the casuals, "Don't worry the bad program isn't official and we won't ever have one." Then he leans to his other side. "Lols, don't worry bros you can still download ACT. Just don't run your mouth about it or be a dick with it."

    The side that just wants to play and dosent care if they are bad can play how they want. And those that like to improve, play to the best of their ability, can do that.

    Just don't be surprised if you join up for current end game content that people expect you to know how to play your job, and that you are open and willing to improve. It's common courtesy to the other seven people. It only takes a quick Google search to find a guide for your job.

    This is a good argument. Like this is undeniable, objective fact: YoshiP doesn't want them, by his own mouth. Case closed, we're likely never getting them.
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    Last edited by Zebraoracle; 01-04-2023 at 02:10 AM.