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  1. #181
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    Opotional luxuries that could be free and obtainable in game.
    A lot of them were event items. Deveryn's right, they don't have an impact in-game unless you think emoting and glamouring are that intrinsic to the basic functionality of the game.
    Plus, they need to make money somehow, and it's not like our subscription fees alone cover monthly costs. Be they technological or otherwise.

    Not to mention how most profit doesn't even go to the game or its team anyway. That's not a SE-only problem, that's how companies work in general.
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  2. #182
    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    While people continue to die on this hill, we're looking at getting a new outfit from Heavensturn and apparently another outfit from Tataru, plus other goodies in 6.3.

    #ungrateful
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  3. #183
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    Magikazam's Avatar
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    Omori Oatmeal
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    Summoner Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    I like my businesses to stay open, thank you very much, especially having seen so many close down in the last couple years.
    Except said businesses only exist cause of greed and not to benefit the player, plus it been Proven with FFXI still being open and with no cash shop that the game can run on subs only.
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  4. #184
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    Magikazam's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    A lot of them were event items. Deveryn's right, they don't have an impact in-game unless you think emoting and glamouring are that intrinsic to the basic functionality of the game.
    Plus, they need to make money somehow, and it's not like our subscription fees alone cover monthly costs. Be they technological or otherwise.

    Not to mention how most profit doesn't even go to the game or its team anyway. That's not a SE-only problem, that's how companies work in general.
    And those items could simply be obtainable again dring event rerun, but they aren't.

    MMO don't give lots of money but they certainly can sustain themselves on subs.
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  5. #185
    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    Except said businesses only exist cause of greed and not to benefit the player, plus it been Proven with FFXI still being open and with no cash shop that the game can run on subs only.
    The game doesn't run on subs only. You're charged for extra characters and the mog wardrobe. They've also dropped a couple servers.
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  6. #186
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    Magikazam's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    The game doesn't run on subs only. You're charged for extra characters and the mog wardrobe. They've also dropped a couple servers.
    SO we gonna assume FFXIV Can't run on subs only even with more server when they are the most played MMO currently?
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  7. #187
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    Hope Sunflame
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    Going by games that just didn't have enough of a fleshed-out monetization and when aged were dropped to be put on life support (or revamped and put out as "brand-new" so that it's caught up on monetization, see OW 2), AAA companies just aren't interested in maintaining games that aren't constantly making them money - over at SQEX they probably know that when patches are months old the money graph turns into a trough, so "at least" those still playing have a chance to buy things from the Store. They not only have peaks when patches or expansions drop, but also on Store sale days, or whenever a new item is released.

    It's just how it is.
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  8. #188
    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    I'm almost in a loop with that one person and I refuse to complete it.
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  9. #189
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    While people continue to die on this hill, we're looking at getting a new outfit from Heavensturn and apparently another outfit from Tataru, plus other goodies in 6.3.

    #ungrateful
    Don't forget an entire set for each role in the upcoming dungeon, and another in the 24 man raids.
    Like, we get a lot of gear and glam options. Too much, one may say.
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    http://king.canadane.com

  10. #190
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    Slayer25c's Avatar
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    Cloudy Heir
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    You know this a company they care about profits and all sub games have a cash shop no one is forcing you to use it.
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