So will Island Sanctuary become more like WoW Garrisons?

[MahthildisMMORPG]

Like is anyone hoping they'll add the market board, retainer summoner, aesthetician, FC bank, mount stable, and glamour dresser to our Island Sanctuary?

Being in WoW, Garrisons have the auction house, transmog station, bank, the mount stable, profession buildings and you can have all your pets out. You get what I'm saying. Like I don't EVER want to leave my Island Sanctuary, I want almost everything to be there so I can afk there waiting for my ques to pop.

[Tint]

Yeah that would be nice. At the very least we need the retainer bell and an repair NPC.

[True-to-Caesar]

You do realize why Garrisons are considered a failure and heavily reduced player interactions ?
Those commodities aren’t needed. I’d understand a repair NPC but the rest is asking to repeat mistakes made by another studio.

[Ayan_Calvesse]

You do realize why Garrisons are considered a failure and heavily reduced player interactions ?
Those commodities aren’t needed. I’d understand a repair NPC but the rest is asking to repeat mistakes made by another studio.

I would merely ask for a glamour dresser and a means to teleport there.

[Jojoya]

You do realize why Garrisons are considered a failure and heavily reduced player interactions ?
Those commodities aren’t needed. I’d understand a repair NPC but the rest is asking to repeat mistakes made by another studio.

I think you're conflating Garrisons with the WoD expansion as a whole.

It was the expansion that failed and not the Garrisons. Garrisons were moderately successful in that they gave players a reason to log in other than raiding. The expansion failed because that's all players were given.

That wouldn't be a problem here. Island Sanctuary (or housing) is just a tiny percentage of the things players can be doing. You could put all those things on Island Sanctuary (technology allowing) and players would still be going other places to do content.

[True-to-Caesar]

I think you're conflating Garrisons with the WoD expansion as a whole.

It was the expansion that failed and not the Garrisons. Garrisons were moderately successful in that they gave players a reason to log in other than raiding. The expansion failed because that's all players were given.

That wouldn't be a problem here. Island Sanctuary (or housing) is just a tiny percentage of the things players can be doing. You could put all those things on Island Sanctuary (technology allowing) and players would still be going other places to do content.

The expansion and garrisons failed, because if garrisons were good, they’d be still worked on. Blizzard doesn’t keep failures around. They abandon and do something else. In all my years, I’ve yet to find players say it’s a great feature, because it was not. It made gathering completely worseless and destroyed the market back then.

A glam dresser or teleport would be nice, since getting to the port then talking to the npc just to get there is unecessary. The rest is asking to reproduce mistakes we’ve already seen.

[Jojoya]

The expansion and garrisons failed, because if garrisons were good, they’d be still worked on. Blizzard doesn’t keep failures around. They abandon and do something else. In all my years, I’ve yet to find players say it’s a great feature, because it was not. It made gathering completely worseless and destroyed the market back then.

A glam dresser or teleport would be nice, since getting to the port then talking to the npc just to get there is unecessary. The rest is asking to reproduce mistakes we’ve already seen.

Garrison were never intended to be maintained beyond WoD. It was yet another one of Blizzard's systems intended to be used for the one expansion than ignored just as Blizzard had done with features added in other expansions once the next expansion was released. Look at places like Isle of Quel'Danas and Argent Tournament - large content hubs that never received updates in later expansion, only some systems tweaks.

I knew a lot of players who liked Garrisons as they were in WoD. They did not like the changes Blizzard made to them with the release of Legion though (primarily to the mission table).

It wasn't the Garrison that made gathering worthless. It was the timed materials for recipes that made gathering worthless. There were players all over the place out gathering when everyone was still levelnig their professions in the early part of the expansion because the leveling recipes didn't require the timed materials. Once level cap was reached and the need for the timed materials gated how fast gear could be produced, gathering died out because there's no point gathering what you can't use until the time materials were available.

Regardless of that, adding the FFXIV equivalent of the items the OP listed to Island Sanctuary wouldn't turn Island Sanctuary or FFXIV into a failure. We're got plenty of content to do and none of it is reliant on something produced by Island Sanctuary.

That said, I still don't see SE adding any of those things to Island Sanctuary either.

[Elevin]

You do realize why Garrisons are considered a failure and heavily reduced player interactions ?
Those commodities aren’t needed. I’d understand a repair NPC but the rest is asking to repeat mistakes made by another studio.

Pretty much this. As if interactions in WoW aren't bad enough, everything the game devs do has one of two affects. Increases toxicity in the game or decreases social interactions. This has been their game design since wow's inception.

[Sated]

I wish they were more like garrisons; right now they're very underwhelming for me and more of a chore the whole way.

More than anything I was disappointed that we have limited spaces and many of those spaces feel "wasted" on multiples of the same production buildings.

The biggest change I'd like to see is for production buildings to be upgrades of one single building instead of this mobile game-esque "fill all spots with excessive minmax factories for big profits and big numbers!". I'd kinda rather have empty plots with just grass and trees on them than two of the same building, honestly.

Can we get "empty" lots for production plots so I can retire buildings and make the island pretty once I'm done grinding currency?

Like... I'm here to relax. Can I get a crab shack to gpose next to? Maybe do some fishing? That's all I wanted.

[True-to-Caesar]

I wish they were more like garrisons; right now they're very underwhelming for me and more of a chore the whole way.

More than anything I was disappointed that we have limited spaces and many of those spaces feel "wasted" on multiples of the same production buildings.

The biggest change I'd like to see is for production buildings to be upgrades of one single building instead of this mobile game-esque "fill all spots with excessive minmax factories for big profits and big numbers!". I'd kinda rather have empty plots with just grass and trees on them than two of the same building, honestly.

Can we get "empty" lots for production plots so I can retire buildings and make the island pretty once I'm done grinding currency?

Like... I'm here to relax. Can I get a crab shack to gpose next to? Maybe do some fishing? That's all I wanted.

What I’d want is a plot of land that acts like Large house plot. Now that would fix a lot of problems.