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  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    That should tell you how beneficial it is to the game and how important it is to at least stay competitive with other subscription services. There are plenty of articles out there about how the subscription fees aren't enough to keep games afloat. There was once a time where they even considered in-game ads to supplement income.
    Beneficial to the game? Competitive? We really gonna judge game competitiveness on how good their cash shop are? Jeez it sad how much they made you believe it a good thing.

    Yea MMO do cost a lot to keep up, but the reason cash shop exist is cause it free money. SE goal is to make money and not having a cash shop is just saying to no to low effort incomes.
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  2. #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    Beneficial to the game? Competitive? We really gonna judge game competitiveness on how good their cash shop are? Jeez it sad how much they made you believe it a good thing.

    Yea MMO do cost a lot to keep up, but the reason cash shop exist is cause it free money. SE goal is to make money and not having a cash shop is just saying to no to low effort incomes.
    Ok, business mogul. You know better. (not )

    I was talking about competitive pricing for entertainment services, but you wanna go off on this rant against the shop.
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  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyAssassin View Post
    How hard is it to poke some damn holes?! Let it clip I don’t care but let me wear it.
    Most viera headgear doesnt even actualy need the holes, just the plain clipping itself often does a fine enough job. Due to the furry ears the holes can be obfuscated.
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  4. #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Ok, business mogul. You know better. (not )

    I was talking about competitive pricing for entertainment services, but you wanna go off on this rant against the shop.
    Price are something similar or higer, not that having competitive price on a cashop make your game any better. Then again I will assume you will do bad faith argument like you do in any tread I see you.
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  5. #175
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    The cash shop is irrelevant because it's all optional luxuries.
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  6. #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    The cash shop is irrelevant because it's all optional luxuries.
    Opotional luxuries that could be free and obtainable in game.
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  7. #177
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    I like my businesses to stay open, thank you very much, especially having seen so many close down in the last couple years.
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  8. #178
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    Does anyone actually know how the cash shop works, or that its a separate team. The people who make the stuff in the cash shop are not the main devs. The people who make the chinese originated stuff are another team entirely as well, but they work with the cash shop design team to port stuff over.

    That's two different teams, and not main SE. I wish the devs would explain how these things work more often so that people could relax. They should think about making a behind the scenes on the cash shop, and then the chinese/korean teams as well. Would be great for shedding light on this for those that aren't familiar.

    I think that is the main problem. Creative Business Unit III, and the rest of Square Enix could do a better job being a bit more transparent, but I fear that Final Fantasy XV made the company more averse to shedding light, and talking about things too soon. Its a shame, because its actually about balance.
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    Last edited by DamianFatale; 12-27-2022 at 09:15 PM.

  9. #179
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    Speaking of the Chinese cash shop this mount is coming soon looks like if it's not already there.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...tm_name=iossmf
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  10. #180
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Does anyone actually know how the cash shop works, or that its a separate team. The people who make the stuff in the cash shop are not the main devs. The people who make the chinese originated stuff are another team entirely as well, but they work with the cash shop design team to port stuff over.

    That's two different teams, and not main SE. I wish the devs would explain how these things work more often so that people could relax. They should think about making a behind the scenes on the cash shop, and then the chinese/korean teams as well. Would be great for shedding light on this for those that aren't familiar.

    I think that is the main problem. Creative Business Unit III, and the rest of Square Enix could do a better job being a bit more transparent, but I fear that Final Fantasy XV made the company more averse to shedding light, and talking about things too soon. Its a shame, because its actually about balance.
    Why do they have to be so transparent? They're just selling some digital outfits? People get lost on the weirdest things. Just enjoy the game already, maybe help populate one of the new worlds that was magically funded by a mystery entity that's apparently not the mogstation because SE is evil and siphons everything out.
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