2min Cooldowns: The Dungeon Experience

[Reap00]

In my experience dungeons take 12-20m regardless of optimization. There are a few groups here and there where a wipe will happen but its pretty rare. I don't see any need to micro manage what I am doing in the dungeon. I press buttons. Things die. I move on.

[Jeeqbit]

Overhauling PLD shows a certain commitment to this. It's a big decision to overhaul a job that has never been overhauled on this scaled just because they want 2min buff windows and giant hitboxes.

I haven't particularly noticed a difference. In dungeons, everything dies fast anyway because of gear. You could start potting if you really want another cd.

[Striker44]

In my experience dungeons take 12-20m regardless of optimization. There are a few groups here and there where a wipe will happen but its pretty rare. I don't see any need to micro manage what I am doing in the dungeon. I press buttons. Things die. I move on.

This times 1000. Are we seriously writing a paragraphs-long rant about burst windows in regular dungeons? I rarely like the phrase "first-world problems", but wow...

[Shurrikhan]

This times 1000. Are we seriously writing a paragraphs-long rant about burst windows in regular dungeons? I rarely like the phrase "first-world problems", but wow...

Dw, it eventually runs the gamut all the way to "world-first problems" somehow exported to casual content.



That said...

...the OP isn't talking about lacking the tools to deal with content or things taking longer now. She's talking about the game now appearing less interconnected, less varied, and (at least relative to the prior CD timings on what she'd typically run) less well-suited to the spans of continuous combat than it used to be.

Elements of what she liked to do before (such as in reacting to longer raid CDs with her shorter ones -- even if that was probably typically poor practice) and/or holding CDs of different rhythms for their sync (again, typically poor practice, but /shrug), or just being able to get two major burst cycles out on a given boss so that the same boss fight duration nonetheless feels less trivial... are now lost to or diminished for her.

No amount of "It's 12-20 minutes anyways" is going to be relevant to the complaint that was being made. It's a comment on fun, even if we may disagree with the poster on how to value those elements or even on how much they've really changed.
The duration of or "need" around the problem affecting that perceived fun is irrelevant. That something one used to enjoy is now less fun, it'd be no boon for it to be short(er) anyways; that'd be like a favorite TV show getting both worse writing and longer commercial breaks.

[NekoMataMata]

In my experience dungeons take 12-20m regardless of optimization. There are a few groups here and there where a wipe will happen but its pretty rare. I don't see any need to micro manage what I am doing in the dungeon. I press buttons. Things die. I move on.

EW's levelling dungeons only really get up to 20 minutes long because the majority of them split the packs of mobs awkwardly. Every one of them has one or two parts where you can't really wall to wall because the story portion of the dungeon forces you to wait at different points.