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  1. #11
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    Maybe a general pie graph type thing I would not or ever display numbers for pve that would create some toxicity kupo <3 but I am not against a simple #1 was such and such #2 was such and such...that could be fun.

    Anything can really breed toxicity if you think about it enough so it is a slippery slope kupo <3

    Could bring in achievements like "Top #1 dps for x amount of something" ...not sure how that would work with tank/heals..perhaps in raid settings...again slippery slope though kupo <3 must be taken with much caution

    Course again with something like that it could be cheesed very easily with 2 dps roulette playing the "My friend needs this achievement so I will faceroll this dungeon" type thing etc..
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    Last edited by Doc_Seraph; 12-21-2022 at 02:52 AM.

  2. #12
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    Aserana Swian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Must not have been that serious of an issue then.



    Yeah cause players do not already ignore mechanics.
    They will ignore mechanics more.

    Happened with Overwatch 2.

    Wasn't any accessible stats in Overwatch 1.

    Overwatch 2 adds stat meters. I now see support aiming for the heals (as it is the only thing that displays on the stats) rather than perking the team up. Those that don't go for heals (e.g. if you play Lucio) get ridiculed because nobody can see the speed boost (which is arguably more important) that Lucio delivers.

    The same will happen in FF14.

    People will do the thing that pushes them up the scale, not the thing that makes them a better player e.g. DPS refusing to move out of shit to keep their DPS high. Healers healing the wrong peeps because they want more of their heals to land, etc.
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    Mir Desfel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Must not have been that serious of an issue then.
    Terrible way of putting it, but I guess so? If reporting was as easy as the RMT button it would be more convenient instead of having to scroll back up through all the comments to dig out all the insults and vulgarity with time stamps, listing where and when it happened and by whom with including the name and world too.

    The only time I was forced to file a report asap is when someone decided to make it their duty to harass me with alts, then going to city states to type something along the lines of "xyz is a hoe".
    Like I said before, had some bad runs with people who were rude and insulting for no reason, or even kicking unfairly because they can and they entered 3/4 etc..

    It's just simply not a good way of dealing with it, especially if you got dc'd soon after and lost all the logs, it's impossible to report that kind of disgusting behavior.
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    Last edited by Corrupted; 12-22-2022 at 03:07 AM.

  4. #14
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    I wonder how many times the word "toxicity" or "toxic" will end up appearing in this thread... :l
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  5. #15
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    I wonder how many times the word "toxicity" or "toxic" will end up appearing in this thread... :l
    The more you say it the less it sounds like a word.

    Same with the word "content".
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  6. #16
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PirateRyanG View Post
    Healers healing the wrong peeps because they want more of their heals to land, etc.
    Don't let the pure healers find out that if you spam recuperate as overheals it counts towards healing done value, you'll start seeing droves of 0mp healers falling over from random chip damage because they are too focused padding themselves to be #1 on healing...
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    Arya Diavolos
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    Breathing breeds toxicity tbh.
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    Saraide Derosa
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    I think really neat stats next to damage dealt would be damage mitigated and ratio of heal to overheal. Resources wasted would be super interesting but not as straight up to implement I guess. If this feature really comes in, dont get too surprised if the healer is leading in dps on trashpulls.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    And then they'll get suspended for toxic behavior
    there is no real downside to having this in the game so console players can see how well they're doing like PC players can
    Hahahahahahaha! Whew. You had me going there.

    There is no such means for PC players to see what you're suggesting in-game. (Without breaking the game's Terms of Service that is.)
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Hahahahahahaha! Whew. You had me going there.

    There is no such means for PC players to see what you're suggesting in-game. (Without breaking the game's Terms of Service that is.)
    I mean if you want to pretend that reality isnt real then sure. TOS only mean as much as they are enforced.
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