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  1. #141
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    Carin-Eri's Avatar
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    Carin Eri
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    I dunno why people are surprised. That's what happens when you shill against your own interest as a consumer. It'll only get worse from here since there are enough not smart people out there with too much disposable income that poison the well for everyone else.
    I don't know - I mean, I've seen/know of players who've spent obscene amounts of R/L money opening gamble/loot boxes - although I'll concede that, in some cases, it's a byproduct of a gambling addiction.

    Eitherway, If you want to point the finger at people having too much disposable income and "not being smart" with it, look at that sort of MMO player who does that sort of thing first.
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  2. #142
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Instead of giving us exactly one chance to get it in-game then going to the cash shop, they are just putting it directly into the cash shop instead. What do we even pay a sub for, exactly?
    This is my biggest gripe.

    They want to put it in the cash shop? Ok, but do it after the PAYING players have the opportunity to obtain it IN GAME.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  3. #143
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    Raoabolic's Avatar
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    I don't know - I mean, I've seen/know of players who've spent obscene amounts of R/L money opening gamble/loot boxes - although I'll concede that, in some cases, it's a byproduct of a gambling addiction.

    Eitherway, If you want to point the finger at people having too much disposable income and "not being smart" with it, look at that sort of MMO player who does that sort of thing first.
    It's not that hard to grasp:
    1. Whales give more money than the average player.
    2.Company sees the trend and leans harder on the cash shop.
    3.Whales spend more on the cash shop.
    4.goto2
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  4. #144
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    Carin Eri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    It's not that hard to grasp:
    1. Whales give more money than the average player.
    2.Company sees the trend and leans harder on the cash shop.
    3.Whales spend more on the cash shop.
    4.goto2
    Yes, thank you - I'm not certain why you think I don't understand. I'm hardly oblivious to the fact that most gaming studios, particularly those managing Free to Play games, only understand or care about feedback that is communicated via Credit Card.

    And therein lay the point I was trying to make; F2P games are FAR more reliant on whales spending money in their cash shops, than a subscription model game. And as I said in an earlier post, games with business models of that nature do tend to suffer in some way or another; the emphasis on trying to keep whales invested in throwing their credit cards at gamble boxes or big-ticket cash shop items means that higher quality story and battle content are often neglected.
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  5. #145
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    Lmao, the cloyingly fake positivity paired with you implying people who care about this are poor is just too much.

    FF14 truly is a mystical place.
    Kupo <3 you either will or not ...whatever reason is your own and my take is just be happy kupo <3 nothing fake here kupo <3
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    Kupo!

  6. #146
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    Miyu Bubbles
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    It really bothers me that this went to the cash shop. I was actually excited for it and had a few glams planned with the pieces. This isn't worth 18$ LOL. No wonder you can't see a single soul wearing this set ingame.
    Same goes for the fat cat set, but at least I already knew this one would be in the store.
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  7. #147
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by ameliaw View Post
    It really bothers me that this went to the cash shop. I was actually excited for it and had a few glams planned with the pieces. This isn't worth 18$ LOL. No wonder you can't see a single soul wearing this set ingame.
    Same goes for the fat cat set, but at least I already knew this one would be in the store.
    I don't know about people in-game, but it's been all over Eorzea Collection since its release.
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  8. #148
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    A) Cash shop is one if the deals Yoshi P had agree with place for Corp. SE to Ok ARR
    B) Its ran by a seperate group from Creative Business Unit 3, and ran by a lady Yoshi P is very much afraid of
    C) Devs have to regularly add something new to cash shop as per contract
    D) On top of all this, there is also seperate deals with Chinese and Korea companies that regulate those versions of FFXIV which also demand new cash shop items regularly (Cash shops are very much the norm in those places)
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  9. #149
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    Boo Box
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    Rafflesia
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    A) Cash shop is one if the deals Yoshi P had agree with place for Corp. SE to Ok ARR
    B) Its ran by a seperate group from Creative Business Unit 3, and ran by a lady Yoshi P is very much afraid of
    C) Devs have to regularly add something new to cash shop as per contract
    D) On top of all this, there is also seperate deals with Chinese and Korea companies that regulate those versions of FFXIV which also demand new cash shop items regularly (Cash shops are very much the norm in those places)
    Where is this insider information coming from?
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  10. #150
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    Xeronia Alden
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    Exodus
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I just want to note the only reason I am upset is the last time we got a Christmas outfit was the Choir set in 2018. Thankfully I have been playing long enough to have a Christmas outfit I gained for free but 4 years seems a bit excessive to not hand out a new outfit, especially given the wave of players ShB and EW brought.
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