More Options for Character Growth

[ThePatriarch]

XIV is not dead. Just very broken but that's old new to everyone here. We sure are not fooling ourselves into thinking XIV is any kind of success. S-E knows it too that is why 2.0 is being built. If S-E does it right, then we will turn that 10k into a million.

Just curious about something tho', that 325k number.... where did you pull that from?

http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-2.png

Here is one chart, I have a couple more. I'll post when I find them (come to see, its showing more like 318,000 at the near end of 2011, so im sure its down a few)

http://www.brighthub.com/video-games...les/35992.aspx

[Onidemon]

http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-2.png

Here is one chart, I have a couple more. I'll post when I find them

That's pretty cool but where does that chart pull it's data? Can't say the site you posted it from is a reliable source, still the numbers do look realistic. Also why does FFXI's graph stop to 2011 when the others go to 2012?

[ThePatriarch]

That's pretty cool but where does that chart pull it's data? Can't say the site you posted it from is a reliable source, still the numbers do look realistic. Also why does FFXI's graph stop to 2011 when the others go to 2012?

I edited my post. I apologize, i did not see that the post numbers ended in 2011. As i said, I'm sure its gone down, we can even say it might be at <300,000.

But still, compare that to what XIV has...

Final Fantasy XI was the 2nd highest subbed MMO under WoW for years. I support, and hope that people continue to get ideas from the 2. Couldn't hurt could it?

[Onidemon]

I edited my post. I apologize, i did not see that the post numbers ended in 2011. As i said, I'm sure its gone down, we can even say it might be at <300,000.

But still, compare that to what XIV has...

Final Fantasy XI was the 2nd highest subbed MMO under WoW for years. I support, and hope that people continue to get ideas from the 2. Couldn't hurt could it?

Bringing good ideas that work well is great and i don't care where it is from. I'm against pple wanting ideas from other games just for the sake of making XIV feel like that other game. Like gear swap... there's a bunch of threads about it, 99% are against it, S-E says they will not do it. Yet some hardcore XI fans keep begging for it.

[Elexia]

Bringing good ideas that work well is great and i don't care where it is from. I'm against pple wanting ideas from other games just for the sake of making XIV feel like that other game. Like gear swap... there's a bunch of threads about it, 99% are against it, S-E says they will not do it. Yet some hardcore XI fans keep begging for it.

Yet there's still people begging to turn this game into WoW. What's your point, honestly? There's more "No FFXI!" than there is "No WoW!" with this community lol. It's like the american civil war, 2 MMOs by the same company yet XIV community hate and want nothing to do with XI.

[Jinko]

Yet there's still people begging to turn this game into WoW. What's your point, honestly? There's more "No FFXI!" than there is "No WoW!" with this community lol. It's like the american civil war, 2 MMOs by the same company yet XIV hates hate and want nothing to do with XI.

Game is turning into WoW without people asking for it.

It seem pretty clear to me what Yoshi-p wants from this game.

You just make that rubbish up about people hating FF11, you seem to think I hate it when I don't, I just prefer a more streamlined experience, something which FF11 is not.

[Elexia]

You just make that rubbish up about people hating FF11, you seem to think I hate it when I don't, I just prefer a more streamlined experience, something which FF11 is not.

Kind of like you stated I don't play WoW?

[ThePatriarch]

Bringing good ideas that work well is great and i don't care where it is from. I'm against pple wanting ideas from other games just for the sake of making XIV feel like that other game. Like gear swap... there's a bunch of threads about it, 99% are against it, S-E says they will not do it. Yet some hardcore XI fans keep begging for it.

From a business standpoint, Final Fantasy XIV isn't financially sustainable with its extremelly low amount of subs. They need to import ideas, and start broadening their horizons. Start catering to the masses as compared to trying to please the few people they have that do not want the game to change.

Alas, I know... its coming in 2.0?

[Exni]

Bringing good ideas that work well is great and i don't care where it is from. I'm against pple wanting ideas from other games just for the sake of making XIV feel like that other game. Like gear swap... there's a bunch of threads about it, 99% are against it, S-E says they will not do it. Yet some hardcore XI fans keep begging for it.

Yeah this is a little OT but that gear swap response we got was actually trash too. Gave us the typical "well XIV is based on an armoury system so switching weapons would switch jobs" mess.. How about we can jus swap armor? Or maybe only swapping JSE? Nope, they jus railroaded the whole thing (which I'm sure pleased all those against it..) with a "oh that won't work here..". Actually, creating your gear swap builds correctly would add more customization and specialization too! Ok, now back OT..

[Onidemon]

Yeah this is a little OT but that gear swap response we got was actually trash too. Gave us the typical "well XIV is based on an armoury system so switching weapons would switch jobs" mess.. How about we can jus swap armor? Or maybe only swapping JSE? Nope, they jus railroaded the whole thing (which I'm sure pleased all those against it..) with a "oh that won't work here..". Actually, creating your gear swap builds correctly would add more customization and specialization too! Ok, now back OT..

I find there were a lot more people saying that it is just a bad concept and that they wouldn't want to be forced to carry extra gear to be considered good players. S-E anyways said they wouldn't do it and that they wouldnt change their minds either so i dont see the point in asking for it again or making a petition.

Just like this thread here. There used to be a lot of similar threads in the beggining but now pple seems to be satisfied with the current system so im not gonna start the same subject again next week.