Automatic Home Demolition is Resuming!!

[DamianFatale]

I don't mind the demolition, but I think its too short. It shouldn't be 45 days, it should be three months. Lets be real, but people take breaks from the game during patch cycles. Sometimes people get bored, and sometimes people have shit to do. I'm a traveling DJ, so I don't always have time to play. Sometimes I also just want a break. I shouldn't have to log in just to keep my house. Sure, its just once a month with a tiny bit extra days, but still. It's pretty lame.

[Bobby66]

Yay my friends will have to resub now!

[stratogod]

I know there are a ton of players that want housing and can't get it. I feel the demolition does help, and it is unfair for inactive players to be taking up very scarce resources... but the timer needs to be much longer. 45 days is a slap in the face and borderline predatory... holding housing hostage to keep active subscriptions. I would be less annoyed if they somehow saved the state of your house furnishing/customizations...

I have 3 additional retainers and the monthly cost is close to $20... guess I will just have to keep paying it and set a monthly reminder to login... because I don't want to risk losing my house!

[hydralus]

If only the community felt this passionate about putting exclusive items in the cash shop.

Oh wait no, the community does feel as passionate. In that they will bitch but keep paying anyway and thus nothing will ever change.

[Deveryn]

I know there are a ton of players that want housing and can't get it. I feel the demolition does help, and it is unfair for inactive players to be taking up very scarce resources... but the timer needs to be much longer. 45 days is a slap in the face and borderline predatory... holding housing hostage to keep active subscriptions. I would be less annoyed if they somehow saved the state of your house furnishing/customizations...

I have 3 additional retainers and the monthly cost is close to $20... guess I will just have to keep paying it and set a monthly reminder to login... because I don't want to risk losing my house!

Or you could think about what's really important in the game and give up one or the other. You don't need 3 additional retainers to function in the game. I do most everything and I manage my space just fine with 2. I only ever had one extra for a couple months when I was getting caught up to cap in ShB.

Honestly ask yourself why you have a house and what it is you do with it. I've had access to houses through tenancy and been given free reign to decorate and use them. I barely touch them.

[Heroman3003]

I know there are a ton of players that want housing and can't get it. I feel the demolition does help, and it is unfair for inactive players to be taking up very scarce resources... but the timer needs to be much longer. 45 days is a slap in the face and borderline predatory... holding housing hostage to keep active subscriptions. I would be less annoyed if they somehow saved the state of your house furnishing/customizations...

I have 3 additional retainers and the monthly cost is close to $20... guess I will just have to keep paying it and set a monthly reminder to login... because I don't want to risk losing my house!

If you havent joined the game for more than a month, you are inactive. Plan and simple. And as you said there's nothing wrong about demolishing houses of inactive players.

[Lunalepsy]

Hot and cold.

[rainichan]

The autodemo timer exists because the limited ward housing system is not a scalable system which can keep up with increasing server populations.

It exists because the players asked for one as well. Can you imagine what the complaints would be like if they didn't implement an auto-demo of houses? People who haven't logged in for 8.5 years still having houses? Yeah.

Yes, it's indicative of a bigger problem, I won't contest that because I agree, but for all the "Yoshida walked back his auto-demolition promise" it was needed.

I've heard from multiple people within the FC that they (and I'm sure many others) had ways of avoiding the AFK timers and were holed up in their private apartments. I have no idea what that method was but it did happen.

3rd party tools. Plenty of people boasted on Reddit that "it won't matter, I'll still stay logged in because I have a script that'll spoof the system that I'm active at my keyboard with key clicks and it'll automatically log me back in if they kick me out." Same people, same jerks. You can call them like they are, it's fine.

This is good, although it would have been nice to let people take up abandoned houses before the holidays. It's fun to decorate when there are less other things to do in game.

The very first auto-demo was done on Christmas lmao. Merry Christmas to XIV players, some got houses that day.

[Jojoya]

You'd have to have a player base that's shown to be patient for that to work. Which totally isn't this one.

More of the player base has the ability to be patient than you think. You don't notice them because they don't raise a fuss in the forums or other social media.

It's also funny that the next time that content is released and the same problem occurs, it's usually the same vocal players from the last time acting as if it had never happened in the game before.

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Yeah, there are a lot of ways to avoid the auto-logout timers that involves 3rd party tools that violate the ToS. Those players don't care - it's all about getting what they want.

But it was also a very temporary problem, wasn't it? After a couple of weeks, logging in was no longer a problem.

They do have the servers needed to allow everyone to have their own private house IF it was all instanced. What they don't have is the servers to allow almost everyone online to be in a house at the same time. That will never happen since most of the game happens outside of the housing (and Island Sanctuary) areas. There will be the occasional congestion as large numbers of players are checking out new content at the same time but that congestion will disappear.

As for not having a place to craft in private while waiting for your friend to get online, you did have one - the inn room. That's instanced separately from housing. All it would lack would be a Company Chest if you have some of your crafting materials stored in it.

And this is exactly why despite not playing the game I kept my sub going, just in case that reactivated. Also as a reminder just a sub alone won't save your house, you have to go inside the house itself to save it.

Why is it so important to you to keep a house in a game you don't want to be playing?

Thank god, get those people who unsubbed and are trying to hold onto multiple houses outta here. Pay like the rest of us or stop holding onto the house for someone who would use it.

It won't get rid of them. They'll be back to reset their demo timers.

I know there are a ton of players that want housing and can't get it. I feel the demolition does help, and it is unfair for inactive players to be taking up very scarce resources... but the timer needs to be much longer. 45 days is a slap in the face and borderline predatory... holding housing hostage to keep active subscriptions. I would be less annoyed if they somehow saved the state of your house furnishing/customizations...

Increasing the length of the demo timer won't help more players get a house. It will make it worse.

But again, why do you want a house in a game you don't want to play? If you're only interested in returning for 2 week when new content is released then quit playing again once you've done it all, why is the house so important? Why not just get an apartment?

As for predatory, ownership of a house in the game isn't mandatory nor do you need to be subscribed constantly to keep it.

30 days subbed. Enter house first and last day of subscription period.

44 days unsubbed.

Repeat. That's only 40% of the year you need to be subscribed to the game not to mention if you get lucky with timing, you can take advantage of the Free Login Campaigns to reset your timer without paying for the month.

If you're constantly paying a sub for a game you don't want to be playing, you only have yourself to blame. Be smarter,

It exists because the players asked for one as well. Can you imagine what the complaints would be like if they didn't implement an auto-demo of houses? People who haven't logged in for 8.5 years still having houses? Yeah.

While it's correct to say players asked for demolition, they wouldn't have need to ask if SE had designed a better system in the first place so only a limited number of players could own a house.

Look at RIFT. I had lots of housing in RIFT (multiple Dimensions per character, multiple characters). I stopped playing for over 4 years. Went back before Endwalker's launch to revisit it. All my housing was still there. Other players weren't prevented from getting housing during that time just because I still had mine. While their system does has a couple of flaws (art aesthetic has aged badly, and the cash shop involvement since it's a F2P MMO), in most respects it's superior as a housing system to what we have here and addressed most of the complaints we have before players there knew they could be problems.

[Croweyes]

Its about time.
I'm coming for your large, squatters!