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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    I'm just saying it's weird that you are upfront about defending erp, that's all! It's SE's game so they can do whatever they want with it.
    I've been clear about my stance on that shit. Keep it out of the public channels. I'm defending those with social anxieties, likely caused by people like you and that other person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    I've been clear about my stance on that shit. Keep it out of the public channels. I'm defending those with social anxieties, likely caused by people like you and that other person.
    "People can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't negatively impact me. ERP is not a new thing."
    "The only difference now is people can be more clear and upfront about it"
    Pick a lane m8. Also, pretty rude of you to assume I somehow cause social anxieties. Funny enough I can say the same about you and how many can't express how they feel without people like you telling them how wrong they are while throwing out your hot take for them to assimilate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    "People can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't negatively impact me. ERP is not a new thing."
    "The only difference now is people can be more clear and upfront about it"
    Pick a lane m8. Also, pretty rude of you to assume I somehow cause social anxieties. Funny enough I can say the same about you and how many can't express how they feel without people like you telling them how wrong they are while throwing out your hot take for them to assimilate.
    Don't talk to me about staying in a lane. You're the one accusing me of being some kind of pervert. This and other bullshit are the legit more toxic behaviours in this community. I was just having a chat with someone the other day and they were telling me how uncomfortable they were made to feel about progressing MSQ and being told how they should like this character and that quest.

    My commentary and responses are not in the same category. I'm not telling anyone to assimilate. I'm telling people to think for themselves and look after themselves. Here, it all boils down to doing oneself a favor and knowing when to take breaks. Diadem: I was getting into the differences between zones and posing alternative for activities to do during queue times. If you actually have a legit difference of opinion, I'm happy to discuss it, but you and others just want to spew bullshit and try and paint me as something I'm not. At that point, I've lost all respect and have no care for civility or even continuing the convo. The only counters I ever see to any of my points tend to be something unrelated or a personal attack, but I'm somehow wrong for having a difference of opinion in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Don't talk to me about staying in a lane. You're the one accusing me of being some kind of pervert. This and other bullshit are the legit more toxic behaviours in this community. I was just having a chat with someone the other day and they were telling me how uncomfortable they were made to feel about progressing MSQ and being told how they should like this character and that quest.

    My commentary and responses are not in the same category. I'm not telling anyone to assimilate. I'm telling people to think for themselves and look after themselves. Here, it all boils down to doing oneself a favor and knowing when to take breaks. Diadem: I was getting into the differences between zones and posing alternative for activities to do during queue times. If you actually have a legit difference of opinion, I'm happy to discuss it, but you and others just want to spew bullshit and try and paint me as something I'm not. At that point, I've lost all respect and have no care for civility or even continuing the convo. The only counters I ever see to any of my points tend to be something unrelated or a personal attack, but I'm somehow wrong for having a difference of opinion in the first place.
    Listen, all I said is that it's okay if you want to defend erp. If you want to paint your personal issues as "anxiety" then wave that flag, but don't go using it as a weapon. Besides, if we are talking about midcore content then you have to look at the bigger issue of the fact that everything in the game seems to be instanced. They could make Diadem an actual zone but I have a feeling that if they could do it easily then they would. However, it seems like they are doubling down on instanced content so I doubt much will change since it would be too difficult for such a small company. If more content was open world or at least in a traditional zone then a lot of issues would be alleviated. I'm sure i'm not the only one who would love to queue while messing around Diadem or doing Bozja content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    Listen, all I said is that it's okay if you want to defend erp. If you want to paint your personal issues as "anxiety" then wave that flag, but don't go using it as a weapon. Besides, if we are talking about midcore content then you have to look at the bigger issue of the fact that everything in the game seems to be instanced. They could make Diadem an actual zone but I have a feeling that if they could do it easily then they would. However, it seems like they are doubling down on instanced content so I doubt much will change since it would be too difficult for such a small company. If more content was open world or at least in a traditional zone then a lot of issues would be alleviated. I'm sure i'm not the only one who would love to queue while messing around Diadem or doing Bozja content.
    Do Diadem and Bozja really count as midcore content though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    Do Diadem and Bozja really count as midcore content though?
    I would say so in the sense that Diadem is midcore content for DoH/DoL if you throw in the Firmament, doubly so if you are going for your glowing crafter relics. Also, Bozja's duel system is essentially a solo EX fight. Any fight can be trivial once you figure it out but Bozja allows the individual some wiggle room to mess up in the form of your holster. It's a shame that CLL and Dalriada are really not solo/low man friendly unless you have a ton of Honor and some strong lost actions. As far as midcore content for DoW/DoM I would say that the southern front was a solid step in the right direction, too bad it's instanced. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    Do Diadem and Bozja really count as midcore content though?
    I guess it depends on where you are with it - But I'd consider them midcore, yeah. If I could do Bozja content in an open world, while also being able to run around, mine, join the critical engagements at my own time, then that'd be perfect.

    FATEs and Hunts as we currently have them are just 2 polar worst opposites of Critical Engagements. Not even talking about the Actions you get in these Duties, but just how they're setup and offer actual engaging content.

    Edit: I think one of the main issues people have, or at least I have is how sectioned off EVERYTHING is. It's all pocketed away and nothing really feels like a consistent, lived world. It's just separated mini-games that all have really slow activities and menu systems now. At least in other MMOs, when I run around and do content, there's tangential content as well. Here? I don't think I've ever stopped what I was doing to go Gather or Craft something mid-content. Because those are so separated as systems that when I want resources, it's me just basically being a drone for an hour instead of naturally getting them as I wander and do things in the world itself.

    When Eureka released, I was so happy that they were testing WORLD systems and we all assumed they were actually going to start using that tech in the game, not wall it off forever. Then they go and do it again, develop more walled content, forever, always walled content.
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    Last edited by R041; 12-13-2022 at 01:12 PM.