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  1. #181
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    I consider it dodging when I ask why there no midcore of lots of repetable content and your anwser is ''It a you issues'' or ''Grass just look greener on the otherside'' Raven gave a good explaination with content self canibalising itself. You just dodge my point by assuming things about me, hell here you are stating I rush content now.
    Because what you call midcore isnt midcore at all. If we're talking about midcore as in difficulty are the current EX trials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    I seriously dont believe those numbers. Only 2 non-CT raids when you're doing alliance roulette every day for 5 months? BS on that, Ive done the same thing you have and I can tell you I get more than just the supposed measly 2 non-CT raids on my daily roulettes.
    Even if 2 look low, that how much time I got lucky. And as I say other people number rarely go into the 2 digits. Ilvl cheese aside, CT the only mandatory Aliance raid. Considering we almost alway end up on alexander in 8 mans, is it that surprising that we get so much people who either run CT for the first time or cheese in a 24 man raid?

    And even if you don't believe those numbers, let not act like it no an oddity when you land on anything that ain't CT.
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  3. #183
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    Even if 2 look low, that how much time I got lucky. And as I say other people number rarely go into the 2 digits. Ilvl cheese aside, CT the only mandatory Aliance raid. Considering we almost alway end up on alexander in 8 mans, is it that surprising that we get so much people who either run CT for the first time or cheese in a 24 man raid?

    And even if you don't believe those numbers, let not act like it no an oddity when you land on anything that ain't CT.
    CT is part of the main msq. I wonder why it keeps popping up that often hmmm
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  4. #184
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Because what you call midcore isnt midcore at all. If we're talking about midcore as in difficulty are the current EX trials.
    yea and how many we get of those per Xpac? 3 or 4? and that on top of ARR and HW ones being way more casual than midcore if anything, Thordan probably the sole exception out of those.

    Low number aside, It only cover trials... Where midcore dungeon? Where Midcore quests? Why not some midcore FATE while we're at it? I would consider solo-Deep dungeon and Eureka/Boznia midcore, but their difficulty is more class dependant than anything else
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  5. #185
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    CT is part of the main msq. I wonder why it keeps popping up that often hmmm
    We agree on that. What your points? If anything it a reason why Aliance Raid roulette don't do it job well and that we still have to wait hours sometimes as DPS if we want to do other Alliance raid?

    Remember, Im not complaining that CT pop to often, it free brainless xp, the complain here is that the roulette don't work as intended.
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    Last edited by Magikazam; 12-11-2022 at 04:15 PM.

  6. #186
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    yea and how many we get of those per Xpac? 3 or 4? and that on top of ARR and HW ones being way more casual than midcore if anything, Thordan probably the sole exception out of those.

    Low number aside, It only cover trials... Where midcore dungeon? Where Midcore quests? Why not some midcore FATE while we're at it? I would consider solo-Deep dungeon and Eureka/Boznia midcore, but their difficulty is more class dependant than anything else
    Uhh... ARR and HW extremes are more casual? Are we playing the same game? There was a time when Titan Ex was a wall for a lot of people lol. Only reason they seem "casual" is because of gear scaling.

    Also we get like seven or so extremes an expac. Earlier on I was kind of agreeing with some of your points (kind of...) but as time went on you've become a bit unhinged... now you just seem like you don't know what you're talking about.
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  7. #187
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    Uhh... ARR and HW extremes are more casual? Are we playing the same game? There was a time when Titan Ex was a wall for a lot of people lol. Only reason they seem "casual" is because of gear scaling.

    Also we get like seven or so extremes an expac. Earlier on I was kind of agreeing with some of your points (kind of...) but as time went on you've become a bit unhinged... now you just seem like you don't know what you're talking about.
    Well, gear scalling is a thing like you said and barely anyone will run titan with the OG level 50 gear. So he not a wall like he used to be (I remember in ARR lots of people considered him one, if not, the hardest boss, Minus some Bahamut fights).

    And yea, your right. I talked out of my ass with the trials ammounts, I just quickly remembered the ones whe see in the MSQ then forgot the other 3-4 batch we get from side quest, that an oopsie on my side.
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  8. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    Well, gear scalling is a thing like you said and barely anyone will run titan with the OG level 50 gear. So he not a wall like he used to be (I remember in ARR lots of people considered him one, if not, the hardest boss, Minus some Bahamut fights).

    And yea, your right. I talked out of my ass with the trials ammounts, I just quickly remembered the ones whe see in the MSQ then forgot the other 3-4 batch we get from side quest, that an oopsie on my side.
    Take a step back from the topic and reassess. I don't think anyone is avoiding your points, I think you're tunnel visioning a bit too much to see what's beside you. Step back, breathe, and come back with a fresh mind. It'll do you a world of good.

    Because yeah like I said, some of your earlier points I could kinda get on board with (maybe not 100% agree with but still see where you're coming from), but you've gone off the rails since then lol
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    Last edited by Zebraoracle; 12-11-2022 at 04:29 PM.

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    Even with 7 or so extreme trials an expansion I think we could do with more midcore content, preferably with some emergent gameplay to keep things fresh so we don't get bored farming the same thing a hundred times for a mount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    Uhh... ARR and HW extremes are more casual? Are we playing the same game? There was a time when Titan Ex was a wall for a lot of people lol. Only reason they seem "casual" is because of gear scaling.
    Yeah ... back then helping people to do the first 3 extreme for their relic +1 is a regular activity for any decent FC, 'cause god helps you if you try to do that on your own. Heavenward was even worse tbh, EVERYTHING was overtuned, from trial to savage, even crafting was over complicated. In a way, HW was the expansion that felt like WoW the most. I think it was starting with Stormblood that FF14 decided it gonna branches off and establish its own design identity instead of trying to be another WoW clone.
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