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  1. #371
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    Renalt's Avatar
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SassyAssassin View Post
    I turned that off a while ago and I’ve lived a more peaceful life since. Who am I kidding, holidays are coming, there’s no peace.
    Someone was playing Christmas music for like...two hours in Uldah the other day...

    So I played Sisqo - Thong Song next to them because I am both a Grinch and a jerk.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

  2. #372
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    kevin_satron's Avatar
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    Kevin Satron
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    Typhon
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    White Mage Lv 100
    fun is not allowed in ff14 apparently
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  3. #373
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kevin_satron View Post
    fun is not allowed in ff14 apparently
    You are allowed to play the violin.

    If I do not wish to listen to you playing the violin and do not want random notes blasted into my ears, I should not have to.
    And playing the violin does not involve you using an robot to play pitch-perfect for you.
    And when told you are allowed to play the violin with some caveats, you should respect said caveats and not, you know... break the ToS?
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  4. #374
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    Jatoi's Avatar
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    Wren Snakelily
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    You are allowed to play the violin.

    If I do not wish to listen to you playing the violin and do not want random notes blasted into my ears, I should not have to.
    And playing the violin does not involve you using an robot to play pitch-perfect for you.
    And when told you are allowed to play the violin with some caveats, you should respect said caveats and not, you know... break the ToS?
    At least we can turn performance off, I'm so glad that was thought of. Not much else can be done since unless there is concrete proof the tool being used, there'd be no consequences even if it's a jumbled mess of notes.

    I was talking with someone and some obnoxious rando cat walked up and started playing in my face but I couldn't hear them.
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  5. #375
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jatoi View Post
    At least we can turn performance off, I'm so glad that was thought of. Not much else can be done since unless there is concrete proof the tool being used, there'd be no consequences even if it's a jumbled mess of notes.

    I was talking with someone and some obnoxious rando cat walked up and started playing in my face but I couldn't hear them.
    Like I said before in this thread, unless someone is recorded and that video goes viral to the point the copyright holders of the song get involved, there's no way to actually punish someone for it. Square isn't going to care unless legal action gets thrown at them. I remember at one point some people tried to trap bards by recording them without their knowledge and posting it but I don't think much came from that.

    Best thing to do is just shut off performance if you really can't stand any of the music.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 12-05-2022 at 06:35 PM.

  6. #376
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    Deejudanne's Avatar
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    Maple Rue
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    Dancer Lv 100
    if they didnt want it to work they wouldnt have added midi inputs fyi
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  9. #377
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    Broken Tree
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    But performance interface is awful?
    The manual performance interface is frankly garbage. Namely, the requirement that octave +/-1 has to be bound to shift or alt or ctrl, on keyboard which are not at all in a good position on a keyboard for you to keep your fingers on other buttons when you need to shift octaves.

    I don't know if there's an easier way to do it, and fast, and won't move your fingers in a way that makes it impossible, but I haven't found it. Especially when you consider that you can't rlly use the alt one since that will open the text box depending on which key you press, which means you can rlly only use shift and ctrl which are really terrible placements. It would be so much easier if you could split the major notes between 8 fingers, and then use two thumbs to shift octaves, but you can't, again, because no matter where you place your fingers, your thumbs will never have easy access to ctrl or shift, which requires you to move your fingers from the other placements, and given the degree of speed required for those shift, basically means you will have a delay in your following notes as you shift your fingers back to position after needing to octave shift.

    The best things I've found is to just bind all the notes to numerals, with the sharps/flats bound to qwert, etc. an then trying to manage the octave shift with just one hand, but even that is kind of awkward.

    Honestly I like the controller better than the keyboard surprisingly, but then you have the issue of the notes bleeding, because the buttons (directional buttons for instance) are placed in a way that it is impossible to hit them clearly while shifting notes without accidentally tapping on an adjacent one, and I often find that my bumpers don't rlly work when i press them at the same time as a note, i have to either deliberately hit the bumper and then the note which ruins the song, or else have impossible reflexes to stop hitting my old note, lightning fast activate the bumper, and then the new note. It's just dumb.

    All that to say: if manually playing songs were feasible, really, then I would get being kind of annoyed at midi players, but given that the ui basically requires you to use a midi for anything other than twinkle twinkle little star makes me feel like they should deliver a manually usable interface, if they want to go after people not doing it manually.
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  10. #378
    Player GaiusDrakon's Avatar
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    Gaius Drakon
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    Jenova
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post

    People like me who have no musical gifts whatsoever
    Remove musical LOL
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  11. #379
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    Klee Zunners
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    Monk Lv 88
    I don't mind. If it sounds good then that's enough for me.
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  12. #380
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    Kurotora Iga
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenTree View Post
    But performance interface is awful?
    The manual performance interface is frankly garbage. Namely, the requirement that octave +/-1 has to be bound to shift or alt or ctrl, on keyboard which are not at all in a good position on a keyboard for you to keep your fingers on other buttons when you need to shift octaves.

    I don't know if there's an easier way to do it, and fast, and won't move your fingers in a way that makes it impossible, but I haven't found it. Especially when you consider that you can't rlly use the alt one since that will open the text box depending on which key you press, which means you can rlly only use shift and ctrl which are really terrible placements. It would be so much easier if you could split the major notes between 8 fingers, and then use two thumbs to shift octaves, but you can't, again, because no matter where you place your fingers, your thumbs will never have easy access to ctrl or shift, which requires you to move your fingers from the other placements, and given the degree of speed required for those shift, basically means you will have a delay in your following notes as you shift your fingers back to position after needing to octave shift.

    The best things I've found is to just bind all the notes to numerals, with the sharps/flats bound to qwert, etc. an then trying to manage the octave shift with just one hand, but even that is kind of awkward.

    Honestly I like the controller better than the keyboard surprisingly, but then you have the issue of the notes bleeding, because the buttons (directional buttons for instance) are placed in a way that it is impossible to hit them clearly while shifting notes without accidentally tapping on an adjacent one, and I often find that my bumpers don't rlly work when i press them at the same time as a note, i have to either deliberately hit the bumper and then the note which ruins the song, or else have impossible reflexes to stop hitting my old note, lightning fast activate the bumper, and then the new note. It's just dumb.

    All that to say: if manually playing songs were feasible, really, then I would get being kind of annoyed at midi players, but given that the ui basically requires you to use a midi for anything other than twinkle twinkle little star makes me feel like they should deliver a manually usable interface, if they want to go after people not doing it manually.
    You don't need to octave shift you can make oen key for each tone on a PC keyboard when mapping them, and then use a translater so you can make those keys onto an actual midi capable keyboard.
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