I wonder how many other players are treated like this?

[Jeeqbit]

That's sort of because the game grew and actually absorbed a lot of disenfranchised WoW players who brought their toxic nature to the game. As the game grew, things like this just naturally began occurring more often.

That isn't true at all. People "who have played WoW" have always come to this game, even before its last 3 expansions. This game has always been 50% current or former WoW players. People have always said this about people from WoW, but it's not just people from WoW but people from FFXI and other games such as League of Legends. I would argue it was worse in ARR and got better over time, especially after the rules were changed to remove loopholes so now just vaguely "being rude" can be reported.

[Regentwill]

That isn't true at all. People "who have played WoW" have always come to this game, even before its last 3 expansions. This game has always been 50% current or former WoW players. People have always said this about people from WoW, but it's not just people from WoW but people from FFXI and other games such as League of Legends. I would argue it was worse in ARR and got better over time, especially after the rules were changed to remove loopholes so now just vaguely "being rude" can be reported.

I can't argue with you, I have played FF14 for a long time but mostly I play at the beginning of an expansion, level up to max level on the few classes I enjoy and only keep up with the story. I mostly was a solo player for the story. It wasn't until Shadowbringers that I really sat and played socially and tried to do content. That being said, in all my time leveling up and doing dungeons since 2016 I rarely ever had an experience or heard of experiences like this. Since the game blew up it's been far more regular. And most of the players that came to FF14 from what I understand were from WoW (Based on information I've seen posted on forums, from my experience ALSO playing WoW, and watching streamers and their chat talk about their experiences moving from WoW).

That being said, LoL players are Toxic AF. I played that game, and it was always people telling me I should get cancer lol. If they went from LoL -> FFXIV I can definitely see them acting like this.

[Jeeqbit]

Since the game blew up it's been far more regular. And most of the players that came to FF14 from what I understand were from WoW (Based on information I've seen posted on forums, from my experience ALSO playing WoW, and watching streamers and their chat talk about their experiences moving from WoW).

The game "blowing up" happened in stages. Every expansion added an additional 200,000 consistently active players (these may be different people returning who replace someone who is taking a break).

I've never played WoW, but this is what I noticed. WoW started to go wrong in 2016 or earlier and although most people brushed it off, some people saw the signs immediately and switched to this game. Their 2018 expansion was the last straw for a lot of people and it began to bleed players heavily from 2018 onwards. Some of them went back for the 2020 expansion which confirmed to them that they were done. The people leaving had only played it several years, so it was easier for them to leave. The 15-year vets would never leave. Then the streaming thing happened and the bad PR happened which was the push that made 15-year vets leave. Many of those people came to this game, but it was a gradual process that had been happening for many years in stages.

That being said, LoL players are Toxic AF.

One of the things you might have noticed is how players have gradually started to say "gg" after a dungeon and they didn't used to say that. That shows how many of the people playing now are used to games that are not an MMO.

[Regentwill]

One of the things you might have noticed is how players have gradually started to say "gg" after a dungeon and they didn't used to say that. That shows how many of the people playing now are used to games that are not an MMO.

Saying GG after a dungeon is great, I appreciate that. But the problem is not when things go right, it's when players are playing with people who they don't feel live up to their personal style of play and get aggressive and insulting. If we had the GG and lost the Get Good it would be a lot better game for everyone.