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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Yeah, they do. I'm mostly talking about where they are location-wise. For example, in 5.X you don't have much incentive to return to Kugane. And if you didn't know, you'd miss Hail to the Queen to unlock Bozja. And it's given to you by a different NPC in Kugane, unrelated to Return to Ivalice, so that can easily be overlooked even if the quest is reddened out to say "You need to finish SHB to unlock this".
    I think my only issue with that is that I believe that quest wasnt given the blue icon despite it being special content? Another one comes to mind is the Moogle Tribe unlock relegated to a huge minor quest chain and then given another minor quest icon over near Fortemps Manor in Ishgard. Yeah those I feel are very confusing and misleading to content unlock, which is why I keep saying the word "MOST" in my argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    I think my only issue with that is that I believe that quest wasnt given the blue icon despite it being special content? Another one comes to mind is the Moogle Tribe unlock relegated to a huge minor quest chain and then given another minor quest icon over near Fortemps Manor in Ishgard. Yeah those I feel are very confusing and misleading to content unlock, which is why I keep saying the word "MOST" in my argument.
    And that's fine I do know it's what you mean and I agree.

    Square needs to make those a bit more visible.

    Otherwise the game isn't completely unintuitive. I didn't combust spontaneously as a sprout and neither has most sprouts I've seen. Most are surprised by the sheer amount of content they need to unlock. But otherwise they deal with it just fine. That information just needs to be a bit more visible and\or compiled so people know where to go without needing to google.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    And that's fine I do know it's what you mean and I agree.

    Square needs to make those a bit more visible.

    Otherwise the game isn't completely unintuitive. I didn't combust spontaneously as a sprout and neither has most sprouts I've seen. Most are surprised by the sheer amount of content they need to unlock. But otherwise they deal with it just fine. That information just needs to be a bit more visible and\or compiled so people know where to go without needing to google.
    Any further compilation feels unnecessary and potentially cumbersome, when you actually have sites that do a good job cataloging everything, like gamerescape and consolegameswiki. It's not unusual and I don't understand the aversion towards looking elsewhere to find more info.
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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Any further compilation feels unnecessary and potentially cumbersome, when you actually have sites that do a good job cataloging everything, like gamerescape and consolegameswiki. It's not unusual and I don't understand the aversion towards looking elsewhere to find more info.
    Because... :I Last time I told people "Google exists", people got offended and went on a rant about how they shouldn't have to rely on outsider information and that it should count as a third party tool.

    So right now I'm just like "I personally use Google because accessing information is really not that hard nor that deep, but I'm not crazy enough to think I'm always right, so for those of you who want the extra mile, here, have a menu."

    If anything I just want information to at least be a liiiiiiittle bit more straightforward. Because of the whole Bozja example I gave and the Moogle Tribe quests Atelier gave. But ultimately... yeah, google's a thing, it's free, just... use it? ^^;

    I kept googling everything in my experience as a sprout, and I still did as a mentor to validate what I was saying. But I don't want to hear people act like I'm gigabraining or expecting sprouts to behave a certain way or trash talking peoples' playstyles, so... yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Because... :I Last time I told people "Google exists", people got offended and went on a rant about how they shouldn't have to rely on outsider information and that it should count as a third party tool.

    So right now I'm just like "I personally use Google because accessing information is really not that hard nor that deep, but I'm not crazy enough to think I'm always right, so for those of you who want the extra mile, here, have a menu."

    If anything I just want information to at least be a liiiiiiittle bit more straightforward. Because of the whole Bozja example I gave and the Moogle Tribe quests Atelier gave. But ultimately... yeah, google's a thing, it's free, just... use it? ^^;

    I kept googling everything in my experience as a sprout, and I still did as a mentor to validate what I was saying. But I don't want to hear people act like I'm gigabraining or expecting sprouts to behave a certain way or trash talking peoples' playstyles, so... yeah.
    To those people, I would say "too bad" "Welcome to video games. You get basic instructions and go off to explore. Anything further, you find a guide."
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