No, I will not use third party tools, the devs cleared the fight without them.

[SeiyaSoiya]

The only real difference is that a good shot caller is correct most of the time. Cactbot is literally never wrong.

...what
the expectation for each player is to have the same amount of knowledge as a world first race raider
this is why you get kicked from party finders if you don't know the strat used in the world first
this is why you have to read a hector guide before joining a pf
this is why you need to use invuln and antikb even though they are not required to clear the raid
this is why you need to pentameld, use grade 7 tinctures and use the premade set of waymarks even if they were made illegally.

if this level of knowledge is expected of your average player, then a perfect shotcaller akin to what you get from a hardcore world first raid group is not unreasonable.

[LittleImp]

Cactpot. It’s the exact same as Discord call-outs, which are almost universally required by NA parties. So why not Cactpot? Don’t have a PC? Well, what if you didn’t have a phone to use Discord with? Not a good excuse. We can all agree that call-out are good, and Cactpot just gives us a machine version.

No, it absolutely is not.

Cactbot has a near 0ms reaction time to mechanics.
Cactbot can view information unavailable to the human client and solve some mechanics well before they are visible to the client.
Cactbot can make 8 individual callouts to 8 different people simultaneously.
Cactbot doesn't make mistakes.
Edit: I forgot cactbot also displays a visual timeline of all upcoming mechanics on your screen as well lmao.

Shotcalling is a skill that a member of your team needs to manually train and develop. Do you think it would make sense for a soccer team to have a perfect robot goalie just because "it's the same as having a really good goalie"?

So, the question is: is it okay for parties to mandate Cactpot? I say yes. And if you’ve agreed with me so far, there’s no logical reason why you wouldn’t agree here.

lmao, by who's completely arbitrary standard? Mandating a third party tool is absolutely against the ToS as defined by the company that owns and operates the game, and they can suspend your account permanently for doing so.

DBM yesterday, Cactpot today.

Blizzard officially supports addons. Square Enix doesn't.

If you had a chess tournament that allowed you to use a chess computer, it would be okay. However, It would not be okay to use a chess computer at a tournament that explicitly prohibits their use.

[caffe_macchiato]

Cactbot has a near 0ms reaction time to mechanics.

A small difference in the grand scheme of things, given that you have at least three seconds to make decisions in content.

Cactbot can view information unavailable to the human client

So does the diagram on my other monitor.

Mandating a third party tool is absolutely against the ToS as defined by the company that owns and operates the game, and they can suspend your account permanently for doing so.

So explain why FFXIV has a far more extensive modding and add-on culture compared to other online games. Explain why one can mandate Discord but not Cactpot. Cactpot is already far more widespread than you think and it's only getting more pervasive. Yoshida himself said he refuses to crackdown on add-ons.

Blizzard officially supports addons. Square Enix doesn't.

A policy without enforcement is merely a suggestion. As a result, add-on culture is widely popular in FFXIV in 2022 and will continue to explode in popularity as this game gets older. The slippery slope is more like a cliff and we've already fallen off.

[LittleImp]

A small difference in the grand scheme of things, given that you have at least three seconds to make decisions in content.

Cactbot expands the time you have to make decisions in some circumstances, up to effectively doubling or even tripling that time because of what I explain below.

So does the diagram on my other monitor.

That's not at all what I'm talking about.

Boss Abilities have unique IDs that are sent to the client as the fight progresses. Let's say in P8S for example, his snake form has an ID of "SNKAE" and his dog form has an ID of "DGO". Because Cactbot is intercepting and decoding network traffic, it can parse these IDs at the earliest stage they are available. In the case of P8S, this means that the MOMENT the castbar for the ability begins (which itself does not indicate which form the boss is going to take), Cactbot is able to tell you which form the boss is taking and how you need to react, despite the actual telegraph for the ability starting like 5 second later at the earliest and requiring you to recognize an animation. There are MANY other mechanics that are like this, and arguing that this doesn't give advantage is absurd.

So explain why FFXIV has a far more extensive modding and add-on culture compared to other online games. Explain why one can mandate Discord but not Cactpot. Cactpot is already far more widespread than you think and it's only getting more pervasive. Yoshida himself said he refuses to crackdown on add-ons.

Yoshida doesn't want to have to put invasive anti-cheat into the game that actively detects mods. Posting mods in public, in a way that is linkable to your character, has gotten people banned in cases where others chose to report them. I personally know of people who have been banned for having Cactbot and ACT running on stream with their character name exposed.

Discord can be mandated because it doesn't invasively intercept and decode network packets, or read from the games memory.

A policy without enforcement is merely a suggestion. As a result, add-on culture is widely popular in FFXIV in 2022 and will continue to explode in popularity as this game gets older. The slippery slope is more like a cliff and we've already fallen off.

The policy is enforced, and at any time we could experience a more severe and widespread crackdown. SE seems largely detached from the Western fanbase at the moment, but there are potentially major IP related issues with some of these mods that may end up forcing SEs hand. There are a lot of mod makers who are actively raking in thousands of dollars porting assets from other games, including those from other Japanese developers, and I highly doubt SE would be fine with that if they understood what was actually going on.

[Renalt]

The company and cake is all that matters

Sassy...you are always so sweet.

THAT'S ILLEGAL...

at least on the forums.

[Saraide]

The only real difference is that a good shot caller is correct most of the time. Cactbot is literally never wrong.

P3s would like to disagree.

[RyuDragnier]

P3s would like to disagree.

Don't you mean its younger brother P5S?

[Saraide]

Don't you mean its younger brother P5S?

How can you fool cactbotters on P5s?

[AngelCheese77]

Guys. Read the post. It's satire.

I did. And don’t see anything that relates that. No /s. So

[Saraide]

...what
the expectation for each player is to have the same amount of knowledge as a world first race raider
this is why you get kicked from party finders if you don't know the strat used in the world first
this is why you have to read a hector guide before joining a pf
this is why you need to use invuln and antikb even though they are not required to clear the raid
this is why you need to pentameld, use grade 7 tinctures and use the premade set of waymarks even if they were made illegally.

if this level of knowledge is expected of your average player, then a perfect shotcaller akin to what you get from a hardcore world first raid group is not unreasonable.

It's fine, the waymarks got legalized. You may now smoke them.