Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
The recast of Meisui, not TCJ. The TCJ recast can stay 120s, obviously. But the combined replacement period plus recast for Meisui has to be no more than 120s because Meisui needs to be usable again at the next TCJ.
So, first off, unlocking buffs have zero effect on the timer of the skill they unlock. Again, you do not need to worry about "that the replacement time and recast do not total more than 120s." The replacement does not affect the recast time, nor does it delay the ability to activate it. It's not like Trick Attack was ever delayed by the 20s of Suiton, so it makes no sense to reduce the unlocked skill's recast time by the duration of the unlock buff or replacement period (which are the same thing, except in that the latter need not appear on your buff bar).

What QoL does it serve to keep them two separate buttons though?
The fact that, where desynced or the current enemy won't live long enough to make use of it, you don't need to blow Trick Attack and can instead spend it on an additional Hellfrog/Bhav. Again, open-world and dungeons; they're not exactly places where there is no downtime nor where all actions happen in lockstep.

Suiton only lasts 20s, so a 30s replacement period covers the entirety of Suiton's duration.
??? I've not said otherwise. Why mention this?

A longer replacement period or a separate button just allows someone who did the wrong triple jutsu sequence to reclaim a tiny bit of lost DPS by spending a real mudra charge on an extra unscripted Suiton.
And that's harmful why?

In the overworld things die so quickly it doesn't make a meaningful difference if you're forced to live with a Raiton instead of a Suiton+Meisui+Bhavacakra, and on dungeon trash you're not going to use single target jutsus until there's just one or two targets with low health anyway.
Fair enough. In the open world, I just happen to like (A) Meisui actually seeming to exist and (B) being able to use TCJ and TA separately, as things otherwise tend to die even before one can get the Suiton off. That's ultimately what this comes down to.

I just don't see the opportunities to use Meisui separately to be worth more than the convenience of marrying one two minute action to the other two minute action it's intended to follow.
Then just split the difference. Have them merge unless one places Meisui on their bars. That should have been the case with most consolidation from the start. No need to strip away freedom from those who want it, nor take up space for those who don't.