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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassar View Post
    I've heard the theory of Azem having this ability and honestly that would make sense and it would be pretty neat.
    What kind of bothers me is the fact the Scions (or anyone, for that matter) could've like asked for Mikoto's aid during the final days or something, her ability would be incredible in times of need, yet no one even thinks about it!
    It really depends on other factors: Can Mikoto and other echo users even use it on their own? We for example cant use our echo when we want to. And on top of that we have Mikoto that was like: I keep silent about it because the future should happen as a I see it. And to top it all off, how far away into the future can they see?

    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    That's the other beef I had with it.

    The Echo has been firmly established to work by reading the "memory" aether of either souls or the environment, so being able to predict the future is decidedly not something that falls within the scope of what it's previously been shown to be capable of doing and they didn't even bother trying to handwave it by saying it's predicting the flows of aether or some such (Which is how Xenoblade did it).
    Well we do have Fordola with the made up echo that is able to have future sights when it was about her attacks. We had to use a device otherwise she just would have known how to stop us because she saw it coming.

    I am not against adding to the echo. We have learned with Endwalker that you can see visions in different ways and we know that the echo worked different for people like Minfilia and Kryle too. Yet I am also not a fan of future sight. As in seeing it happening. Having that as being able to predict attacks is okay but Mikotos echo is too much imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Well we do have Fordola with the made up echo that is able to have future sights when it was about her attacks. We had to use a device otherwise she just would have known how to stop us because she saw it coming.

    I am not against adding to the echo. We have learned with Endwalker that you can see visions in different ways and we know that the echo worked different for people like Minfilia and Kryle too. Yet I am also not a fan of future sight. As in seeing it happening. Having that as being able to predict attacks is okay but Mikotos echo is too much imo.
    They at least had a simple explanation for why Fordola's ability worked, which was that the incorporeal aether mobilizes before the physical body which provided a very short term precognition in a logical manner.

    XIV is very fond of trying to explain how magicks and other supernatural phenomena work at least on a surface level, so them just coming in saying absolute future sight is a thing without any explanation whatsoever about the "how" of it was really awkward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    They at least had a simple explanation for why Fordola's ability worked, which was that the incorporeal aether mobilizes before the physical body which provided a very short term precognition in a logical manner.

    XIV is very fond of trying to explain how magicks and other supernatural phenomena work at least on a surface level, so them just coming in saying absolute future sight is a thing without any explanation whatsoever about the "how" of it was really awkward.
    That, and Fordola's "precognition" was just that she became able to see cast bars and aoes with the echo just like us
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    They at least had a simple explanation for why Fordola's ability worked, which was that the incorporeal aether mobilizes before the physical body which provided a very short term precognition in a logical manner.

    XIV is very fond of trying to explain how magicks and other supernatural phenomena work at least on a surface level, so them just coming in saying absolute future sight is a thing without any explanation whatsoever about the "how" of it was really awkward.
    That is true. I am not a fan of the bozja storyline (too many moments where we stood around and let things happen) so that is just one part that I was like "really?".
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