Ability to see the future: Loose plot thread?

[DPZ2]

Hey now if Apollo wasn't being a dick and cursed her prophecies to not be believed she at least would get about the same respect as the Oracle of Delphi. Just that with her stuff people could actually try and change the outcome. Unlike the things the Oracle would tell you.

I was amused at the story told about Croesus of Lydia's encounter with the Oracle. "Should I invade?" "You will cause the destruction of a great empire" ... unsaid: "your own". It was a great profit center (pun intended) for nearly 1500 years, but changed hands, er, I mean gods, more often than many corporate conglomerates of today.

[Cleretic]

Hey now if Apollo wasn't being a dick and cursed her prophecies to not be believed she at least would get about the same respect as the Oracle of Delphi. Just that with her stuff people could actually try and change the outcome. Unlike the things the Oracle would tell you.

And we should be fine, after all, it's not like the Greek gods exist anywhere in the game's setting as capricious enough assholes to do horrible things like--

Oh. Right.

[SannaR]

And we should be fine, after all, it's not like the Greek gods exist anywhere in the game's setting as capricious enough assholes to do horrible things like--

Oh. Right.

That about the Ancients or the twelve or both? Not that we've heard of any of the twelve doing incredibly horrible things to people out of spite or cause they were bored.

[sidurgu-12]

That about the Ancients or the twelve or both? Not that we've heard of any of the twelve doing incredibly horrible things to people out of spite or cause they were bored.

If anything, despite the jrpg cliche, the twelve truly seem benevolent in every way. While still enjoying a good rumble.

[Cleretic]

That about the Ancients or the twelve or both? Not that we've heard of any of the twelve doing incredibly horrible things to people out of spite or cause they were bored.

The joke is that the Ancients, especially the Ascians, are exactly bad enough to do that stuff, and literally are named after Greek gods.

Granted, they usually aimed bigger than 'making one specific person miserable'. And we haven't found an Apollo yet.

[SannaR]

The joke is that the Ancients, especially the Ascians, are exactly bad enough to do that stuff, and literally are named after Greek gods.

Granted, they usually aimed bigger than 'making one specific person miserable'. And we haven't found an Apollo yet.

Well I figured that was aimed at the Ascians and not at the twelve. I think the only thing close to the Twelve being complete dicks is the whole Gods fighting amongst themselves myth that caused the moogles to flee the relm of the gods. That is if it was the twelve and not something that happened during the first calamity.

[Lyth]

While it can be an interesting storytelling device, linking it back to the Echo on a more consistent basis adds some complications.

In particular, there's the issue that reading the past is something that could be done consciously in Amaurotine times, either by reading a memory when someone accesses it consciously, or simply by reading the aether of the land itself. If future sight becomes a recurring concept, then it'll likely have to fit into that same framework somehow. As a once off it doesn't matter so much.

Not to say that it can't be a fun storytelling device, though. Divination is probably the most undervalued school of magic, and it's probably up there with Illusion in terms of entertainment value in pen and paper settings. I think that it could make for a fun job concept as well, especially if coupled with some rewind time effects.

[Lord_Umbra]

While it can be an interesting storytelling device, linking it back to the Echo on a more consistent basis adds some complications.

In particular, there's the issue that reading the past is something that could be done consciously in Amaurotine times, either by reading a memory when someone accesses it consciously, or simply by reading the aether of the land itself. If future sight becomes a recurring concept, then it'll likely have to fit into that same framework somehow. As a once off it doesn't matter so much.

Not to say that it can't be a fun storytelling device, though. Divination is probably the most undervalued school of magic, and it's probably up there with Illusion in terms of entertainment value in pen and paper settings. I think that it could make for a fun job concept as well, especially if coupled with some rewind time effects.

Azem must have some kind of future sight though she/he told Themis exactly where to meet us for the Panda raid "falling star would appear beside him".

[SannaR]

Loghrif or at least one of their shards can do time magic which sure isn't future sight, but could you imagine what crazy stuff could happen if you had a person who could manipulate time even for a short while that worked with a situation that you knew about due to future sight?

Don't forget Azem was going to go with Elidibus until they noped out and told them to look out for their falling star. Which if not future sight then it leans into the at some point down the road that we will probably never see of the WoL needing to become fully rejoined and to travel even further into the past to become Azem theory. Even though it would be cool I don't want to see it or for it to be true. I'd rather have Azem be highly quirky and have very vague future sight.