Let's talk about Alliance roulette and ilvl cheese for a sec.

[Helbya]

At this point I will take any of the solutions people have proposed the last few months:

- Make the roulette use your highest iLvL equippable for your current class (So if you unequip, it still considers your max iLvL)

- Buff the exp depending on how long the duty is, 40 minutes to 1 hour alliances going as up as to an entire level of exp

- Move CT to the MSQ roulette

- Make a separate roulette for non-CT alliances

Regardless of the solution, people are either doing Alliance roulette for Crystal tower, or avoiding it because they know its a 90% chance to crystal tower, and something has to be done about it

I will concede; moving CT raids to MSQ roulette is an interesting take I had not heard before.
We can't have roulettes assume 'highest available ilvl for your class and level' because players may not have that level of gear. Having the roulette check you current 'recommended gear' may work but may also require too much in the back end. Binding the bonus to the ilvl at time of queue works around that.

Personally I run alliance roulette because Alliance raids are my favourite type of content in the game.

Regardless of if people do this, Crystal Tower would still come up very frequently.

Since I don't want to keep repeating myself, I just recommend watching this video to understand how we would get Crystal Tower a lot even if nobody did this https://youtu.be/RCoooKmF6NU?t=760

Oh, I don't disagree that CT will always be the most common raid, but I want to dissuade people from ilvl cheesing. It's not about 'Wah CT is boring I want fun'. It's about adjusting rewards to the set entry bar. If I enter A.Roulette with all raids available I should be rewarded appropriately for making myself available to fill any raid vs making myself available for the bottom two raids only. I run the Raid regardless of which one comes up, but people waiting literal hours for an alliance raid queue is not okay.

Already talked about it a lot, look up some of these threads. No need to dig that topic up again cause nothing will change.

So we stop talking about it and it gets dropped because the devs don't think it's an issue anymore.

[Bacent]

I will concede; moving CT raids to MSQ roulette is an interesting take I had not heard before.

MSQ roulette is four people now so 1/1/2

Raid Roulette is 3/6/15, which includes the CT series.

It would probably have to be made into a MSQ Raid Roulette, since only the CT stuff is needed for MSQ


Also if people just made one megathread about the topic, maybe it could be focused on instead of people making dozens of min threads that don't go anywhere.

[Avenheit]

CT gives me Hypersomnia

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I suppose if they do want to move CT raid into MSQ roulette, they will have to force it to work similarly to a Mentor Roulette: filling basically any viable empty slots except with the only possible duties to get consisting Castrum, Prae, Porta, and CT Raids. Also disables party queueing.

[FireMage]

So we stop talking about it and it gets dropped because the devs don't think it's an issue anymore.

Good, because it's not an issue. Shut up, move on

[Avoidy]

On the contrary. Make more of these threads and also boycott the shitty roulette.

[Deveryn]

lol. a boycott. what are you gonna do queue direct? (that's exactly what I've been suggesting )

[Atelier-Bagur]

Here's the thing, without ilevel cheese, people would be fine with getting CT raids because we know nobody is gaming the system to get them, and thus the people entering it actually need them. I get irritated as hell when I see CT raids, but the second I see the bonus for a new player, I cope with it because I know I'm helping somebody new through it. If I don't see that, I'm automatically assuming somebody cheesed to get them. Yes, I know relics use these constantly, but it's far more likely to believe somebody is actually in need of the place if there's no way to game what you're getting. Until then, guilty until proven innocent.

But how can you truly say that unless you see hard proof evidence in that instance you queue that somebody ilv cheesed? At this point is mindless paranoia just because CT is that unpopular among the veteran community. Just stop caring about it, the major reason it pops up frequently is due to new players needing to run it. Like really 80% of the time I get CT is due to somebody being new.

This tireless conversation goes nowhere and no amount of speculating will get the devs to want to make the raids less frequent since its tied to the msq. So this topic is entirely pointless. I'm not saying that ilv cheating doesnt happen but that situation is a niche occurrence that dedicating resources to come up with a solution isnt worth it.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Also "guilty until proven innocent"?

Yeah I'm not gonna take anyone seriously if thats their line of thinking.

[Midareyukki]

But how can you truly say that unless you see hard proof evidence in that instance you queue that somebody ilv cheesed? At this point is mindless paranoia just because CT is that unpopular among the veteran community. Just stop caring about it, the major reason it pops up frequently is due to new players needing to run it. Like really 80% of the time I get CT is due to somebody being new.

This tireless conversation goes nowhere and no amount of speculating will get the devs to want to make the raids less frequent since its tied to the msq. So this topic is entirely pointless. I'm not saying that ilv cheating doesnt happen but that situation is a niche occurrence that dedicating resources to come up with a solution isnt worth it.

Okay, but where's the evidence to the contrary? Until then, it's devil's proof.