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    Any Tales of.. game.

    I just pop one in/on and have a grand old time with its cheesy stories and best cast of characters ever created for an RPG. Personal favorites being the obvious big 3 of Symphonia/Abyss/Vesperia, but Graces has recently won me over with how unapologetically campy it is.(seriously please play it, the entire game is just "Solve everything with love and friendship" and it's hilarious)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DubiousDisk View Post
    Any Tales of.. game.

    I just pop one in/on and have a grand old time with its cheesy stories and best cast of characters ever created for an RPG. Personal favorites being the obvious big 3 of Symphonia/Abyss/Vesperia, but Graces has recently won me over with how unapologetically campy it is.(seriously please play it, the entire game is just "Solve everything with love and friendship" and it's hilarious)
    We need to find the butt, Cheria, it's the only way.

    Graces is my fave modern Tales of game haha. Eternia and Graces, the two best, but I quote Graces a LOT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainichan View Post
    We need to find the butt, Cheria, it's the only way.

    Graces is my fave modern Tales of game haha. Eternia and Graces, the two best, but I quote Graces a LOT.
    Graces had such good characters, skits, and combat. It's just a shame the story was a dumpster fire, especially considering how good it starts off. Luckily Future Arc (essentially the Epilogue for those of you not in the know) had such good writing to where it was a good cap point to the story. Just a shame it took THAT long for the story to become good quality again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Graces had such good characters, skits, and combat. It's just a shame the story was a dumpster fire, especially considering how good it starts off. Luckily Future Arc (essentially the Epilogue for those of you not in the know) had such good writing to where it was a good cap point to the story. Just a shame it took THAT long for the story to become good quality again.
    I'd take my least faves over Zestiria, the true dumpster fire lol. I'm the most mad over that one, where I liked the lore and worldbuilding but they messed so much of it up I just... disliked it greatly. Didn't help that the last boss was a pain in the arse and for all my trouble I got a 3D "Congraturation" screen, essentially, as my ending. I wanted to like it, but it just wasn't in the cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainichan View Post
    I'd take my least faves over Zestiria, the true dumpster fire lol. I'm the most mad over that one, where I liked the lore and worldbuilding but they messed so much of it up I just... disliked it greatly. Didn't help that the last boss was a pain in the arse and for all my trouble I got a 3D "Congraturation" screen, essentially, as my ending. I wanted to like it, but it just wasn't in the cards.
    Started that series with Tales of Destiny on the PS1. Series has changed quite a bit since then as the story of that game revolved around ppl that had sentient talking swords that also leveled up on their own. I think it also had airships that were actually giant dragons.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainichan View Post
    I'd take my least faves over Zestiria, the true dumpster fire lol. I'm the most mad over that one, where I liked the lore and worldbuilding but they messed so much of it up I just... disliked it greatly. Didn't help that the last boss was a pain in the arse and for all my trouble I got a 3D "Congraturation" screen, essentially, as my ending. I wanted to like it, but it just wasn't in the cards.
    We don't speak of Zestiria. While Graces F only had a dumpster fire for a story, Zestiria was a California wildfire in how bad it was. IMO if Tempest had never existed, Zestiria would have been the game that broke the series, if that tells you how bad I feel the game is (meaning as bad as Tempest, if not worse).
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    We don't speak of Zestiria. While Graces F only had a dumpster fire for a story, Zestiria was a California wildfire in how bad it was. IMO if Tempest had never existed, Zestiria would have been the game that broke the series, if that tells you how bad I feel the game is (meaning as bad as Tempest, if not worse).
    Wait what? People don't like Zestiria? O_o I thought it was amazing. I just redownloaded it recently so I could replay it at some point. I thought the story was excellent. Same for Graces F, in my opinion. I haven't played the older games, but the worst entries out of the modern ones I played was Xillia and Symphonia 2. I played from Jude's perspective in Xillia and he was insufferable. I'm sure I don't need to explain why Simp-phonia 2 was bad. xD
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicPeanut View Post
    Wait what? People don't like Zestiria? O_o I thought it was amazing. I just redownloaded it recently so I could replay it at some point. I thought the story was excellent. Same for Graces F, in my opinion. I haven't played the older games, but the worst entries out of the modern ones I played was Xillia and Symphonia 2. I played from Jude's perspective in Xillia and he was insufferable. I'm sure I don't need to explain why Simp-phonia 2 was bad. xD
    Problems with Zestiria include:

    - You're forced to always use 2 specific people in the party at all times
    - how stupid the AI could constantly get (even by Tales standards its bad)
    - the overly complicated equipment leveling system (Berseria made this way easier)
    - battles at the location you're currently at in the dungeon (could cause issues with reaching or hitting enemies)
    - the camera itself (while bad in other Tales games, the previous complaint makes this problem worse)
    - the entire Alisha debacle (Alisha leaves and never comes back despite have been shown as the first female party member in interviews, her equipment still drops despite this)
    - Rose basically being shoved into your party (keep in mind the director REALLY loved her VA and this may be in part the reason why it happened)
    - rushed story towards the end

    That's just off the top of my head.
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