When do you think they'll add cross-region data center travel? OCE is screwed!

[LaylaTsarra]

What do you think SE can do to fix it? Regional travel wouldn't fix anything because that won't get more players to play on Materia. That would only get Materia players to log in then play elsewhere.

If they make regional travel exclusive to Materia oh yes there will be a flood of players coming to the DC.

The DC is bleeding players some action is required. More will leave when they can't get basic stuff done so things will only get worse not better. It's going to either be DC travel or merging with another DC at some point. I have little expectation at the moment that we'll see a flood of players and the xpac is a long way off probably not until 2024.

Every OTHER REGION has DC travel BUT MATERIA and we have 5 underpopulated servers to draw from where the others have soon to be 32 in NA, already 32 in Japan and soon to be 24 in the EU. It's not getting better it's getting worse. It's not unreasonable to have DC travel just like everyone else. This regional excuse needs to go.

[MsMisato]

As new player on DYnamis. It blows having to wait forever for a queue to pop.its like active for a like a couple of hours in the evening but then it feels like the people there are from other DC make of the majority of pop. I think Seraph is the only server that is full. The 3 are pretty empty. The MB sucks. It shouldn't be like that, I shouldn't have to travel to another DC, wait for the travel time, log in, do my roulettes, and leave because I can't access my retainer. its stupid.

[KuroMaboroshi]

We're not seeing players asking SE to enable regional travel so they can go to Materia. We're seeing players asking for it so they can leave Materia to go to other data centers.

If you phrase it that way, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Sure, Cross-region DC travel finally being added to the game might not fix Materia's queues cause too many people will travel elsewhere. In the beginning of Cross-region DC travel that will almost certainly be the case. However, there is a chance that as more people move to Materia, they eventually enough of them, out of convenience or otherwise, will also queue for and do content on Materia itself, because of Ping and other advantages. This could eventually normalise the situation over there.

Contrast that with DC travel never being added, in which case people don't move to Materia in the first place because they don't want to abandon established statics, communities, etc. We saw the same thing happen before during the Great Crystal Exodus, where a significant amount of peopel shuffled into Crystal when worlds were moved over there immediately migrated back because those things are usually not worth losing.

One has a chance of improving the situation in the long term, though as you correctly pointed out, not in the short term. The other one certainly won't improve things in neither. So people would like to try out option #1.

Let's say data center travel didn't exist for anyone. What would you be doing in that case?

Then they might ask for it to be added if they came up with the idea themselves. Or they might not have, in which case we wouldn't be having this conversation.
What sort of argument is this even supposed to be?

[Jeeqbit]

Above post, essentially. The ability to leave the data center temporarily allows you to return to it some of the time. The inability to leave the data center temporarily can mean you need to leave it forever.

So you can do things on the other data centers such as statics or what the data center doesn't have the activity for yet.

There are those who will always queue on the data center itself such as newer players and slowly build up the activity so that people stop traveling off-world to get duty pops.

[VelKallor]

We're not seeing players asking SE to enable regional travel so they can go to Materia. We're seeing players asking for it so they can leave Materia to go to other data centers.

The traffic will go both ways.

How is it a problem when most of the OCE players should be past the 90 days and eligible to use home world transfer again?

Temporary vs permanent with a 90 day CD.

Coeurl population 599,672

connected to a dozenh or so establisher servers vs

OCE

vs

Bismarck 43,741
Ravana 56,978
Sephirot 60,500
Sophia 68,671
Zurvan 37,448

..connected to no one.

Im curious...why are you as an NA player opposed to this? For that matter why was NA opposed to OCE servers in the first place?

Why are you arguing against something that can HELP OCE server traffic? Why are you arguing against an option that will boost server traffic in both directions?.

Seems to me you'd want the OCE cluster to succeed..wouldnt you?

[LaylaTsarra]

Above post, essentially. The ability to leave the data center temporarily allows you to return to it some of the time. The inability to leave the data center temporarily can mean you need to leave it forever.

That is so on the money. People don't want to leave they are going to be forced to leave. And why is it that OCE is the only Data Center that can't DC travel. It's unfair, it's crippling right now, it's not giving those there much of an option to either suffer or leave letting the DC bleed further.

[Imora]

It's really going to make me sound like a douche, but I always thought OCE servers were a terrible idea, if only because of the low population to fill them, much less the even fewer that would move.

I got a friend on Balmung who's in NZ. She refuses to move to Materia. Friends and such. On top of the relatively low overall population, the number that will actually move is even smaller.

It's unfortunate, but I saw this coming when they announced it. They would never inconvenience the JP community by moving a JP server to the Aussie datacenter.

[Imora]

There are almost fully populated English speaking servers in Japan that could have been moved. Tonberry is one of them. Backlash oh lets not offend anyone but lets let the people who decided to come here sit and pray for some divine intervention.

They aren't going to inconvenience the Japanese that play there.

[Imora]

The traffic will go both ways.



Temporary vs permanent with a 90 day CD.

connected to a dozenh or so establisher servers vs

OCE

vs

Bismarck 43,741
Ravana 56,978
Sephirot 60,500
Sophia 68,671
Zurvan 37,448

..connected to no one.

Im curious...why are you as an NA player opposed to this? For that matter why was NA opposed to OCE servers in the first place?

Why are you arguing against something that can HELP OCE server traffic? Why are you arguing against an option that will boost server traffic in both directions?.

Seems to me you'd want the OCE cluster to succeed..wouldnt you?

DC travel to/from Materia has the downside of huge latency jumps and I don't imagine people would want that. If they wanted NA latency, they would have played NA.

[Myrany]

I think the most likely to succeed solution is actually move the DC from Sydney to somewhere in SEA. Part of the problem is the SEA people didn't move to materia in any great numbers. If a way was found to combine the SEA and OCE populations on one DC it might well be viable.

Barring that DC travel is the only option.