When do you think they'll add cross-region data center travel? OCE is screwed!

[Jojoya]

How will it empty the server when it allows people to COME IN?

We're not seeing players asking SE to enable regional travel so they can go to Materia. We're seeing players asking for it so they can leave Materia to go to other data centers.

That. is. the. problem.

How is it a problem when most of the OCE players should be past the 90 days and eligible to use home world transfer again?

The problem was OCE players asked for a data center that was based locally to them but didn't think about the potential problems if they got it such as lack of population in off peak hours. Keep in mind those requests were going on for a long time before SE even announced they would be adding data center travel.

Let's say data center travel didn't exist for anyone. What would you be doing in that case?

Just tell people to leave if they don't like it that's a wonderful solution. How about we fix the DC that SE decided to make for players and it's doable. DC travel at least is a outlet to get content done they can't get otherwise. It's something they need to take action on quickly and not let the DC hemorrhage any further. Letting it die a slow death with no action is unacceptable.

What do you think SE can do to fix it? Regional travel wouldn't fix anything because that won't get more players to play on Materia. That would only get Materia players to log in then play elsewhere.

[LaylaTsarra]

What do you think SE can do to fix it? Regional travel wouldn't fix anything because that won't get more players to play on Materia. That would only get Materia players to log in then play elsewhere.

If they make regional travel exclusive to Materia oh yes there will be a flood of players coming to the DC.

The DC is bleeding players some action is required. More will leave when they can't get basic stuff done so things will only get worse not better. It's going to either be DC travel or merging with another DC at some point. I have little expectation at the moment that we'll see a flood of players and the xpac is a long way off probably not until 2024.

Every OTHER REGION has DC travel BUT MATERIA and we have 5 underpopulated servers to draw from where the others have soon to be 32 in NA, already 32 in Japan and soon to be 24 in the EU. It's not getting better it's getting worse. It's not unreasonable to have DC travel just like everyone else. This regional excuse needs to go.

[KuroMaboroshi]

We're not seeing players asking SE to enable regional travel so they can go to Materia. We're seeing players asking for it so they can leave Materia to go to other data centers.

If you phrase it that way, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Sure, Cross-region DC travel finally being added to the game might not fix Materia's queues cause too many people will travel elsewhere. In the beginning of Cross-region DC travel that will almost certainly be the case. However, there is a chance that as more people move to Materia, they eventually enough of them, out of convenience or otherwise, will also queue for and do content on Materia itself, because of Ping and other advantages. This could eventually normalise the situation over there.

Contrast that with DC travel never being added, in which case people don't move to Materia in the first place because they don't want to abandon established statics, communities, etc. We saw the same thing happen before during the Great Crystal Exodus, where a significant amount of peopel shuffled into Crystal when worlds were moved over there immediately migrated back because those things are usually not worth losing.

One has a chance of improving the situation in the long term, though as you correctly pointed out, not in the short term. The other one certainly won't improve things in neither. So people would like to try out option #1.

Let's say data center travel didn't exist for anyone. What would you be doing in that case?

Then they might ask for it to be added if they came up with the idea themselves. Or they might not have, in which case we wouldn't be having this conversation.
What sort of argument is this even supposed to be?

[VelKallor]

We're not seeing players asking SE to enable regional travel so they can go to Materia. We're seeing players asking for it so they can leave Materia to go to other data centers.

The traffic will go both ways.

How is it a problem when most of the OCE players should be past the 90 days and eligible to use home world transfer again?

Temporary vs permanent with a 90 day CD.

Coeurl population 599,672

connected to a dozenh or so establisher servers vs

OCE

vs

Bismarck 43,741
Ravana 56,978
Sephirot 60,500
Sophia 68,671
Zurvan 37,448

..connected to no one.

Im curious...why are you as an NA player opposed to this? For that matter why was NA opposed to OCE servers in the first place?

Why are you arguing against something that can HELP OCE server traffic? Why are you arguing against an option that will boost server traffic in both directions?.

Seems to me you'd want the OCE cluster to succeed..wouldnt you?

[Jojoya]

Then they might ask for it to be added if they came up with the idea themselves. Or they might not have, in which case we wouldn't be having this conversation.
What sort of argument is this even supposed to be?

Think about how you would realistically answer my question and you would understand how it applies.

Assume SE had told us that cross region travel is not possible before the Materia data center was opened.

Would you still have created or transferred a character there? Seeing what things are like 8-10 months later, how would you be feeling about being on the data center or would you be transferring off?

If they make regional travel exclusive to Materia oh yes there will be a flood of players coming to the DC.

The DC is bleeding players some action is required. More will leave when they can't get basic stuff done so things will only get worse not better. It's going to either be DC travel or merging with another DC at some point. I have little expectation at the moment that we'll see a flood of players and the xpac is a long way off probably not until 2024.

Every OTHER REGION has DC travel BUT MATERIA and we have 5 underpopulated servers to draw from where the others have soon to be 32 in NA, already 32 in Japan and soon to be 24 in the EU. It's not getting better it's getting worse. It's not unreasonable to have DC travel just like everyone else. This regional excuse needs to go.

Why would there be a flood of players going to Materia if cross region travel was exclusive to Materia?

What would be their reasons for going when there is no bonus given to the travelling player for going there over playing on their home world or within their home region?

Im curious...why are you as an NA player opposed to this? For that matter why was NA opposed to OCE servers in the first place?

Why are you arguing against something that can HELP OCE server traffic? Why are you arguing against an option that will boost server traffic in both directions?.

Seems to me you'd want the OCE cluster to succeed..wouldnt you?

Where have I said I'm opposed to it? I haven't.

The point I'm trying to make is that it will not be the solution to the Materia problems that you think it will be. For the problems on Materia to be solved, there needs to be a reason for players to want to travel to Materia to do content on Materia.

So what reasons would players not on a Materia world have to go to Materia?