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    Raelle Brinn
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    The question of if the Sundering can be equivalent to literal killing is one that has been litigated and re-litigated over and over again on these forums; I'm not particularly interested in rehashing it, so I'll just say trying to lessen the impact of and dress up in prettier, less harsh-sounding rhetoric what she materially did to masses of living people (that you at the very least can't argue didn't result in extremely premature death for all Ancients) will always feel pretty tasteless to me in context of similar historical maneuvers when it comes to destroying peoples' identities and cultures.

    Quote Originally Posted by dynus View Post
    Your use of disease, however, given the recent pandemic, rings hollow, however.
    Only if you want to seriously make an argument that something like the pandemic was actually for the greater good in making people 'strong' and hence societally worth putting us through, millions of deaths included, because suffering like it is necessary for us to 'grow' and 'discover ourselves.' The primary point of conversation here is Endwalker's rhetoric and framing, not judging anyone's personal experiences - as I said in my last post, I think whatever anyone is able to draw for themselves from any tragedy to enable them to keep living is valid and should not be policed - but Endwalker would argue on an entirely different scale that a world without the pandemic should be destroyed and replaced with a world with the pandemic, because it would in the long run make humanity 'stronger' and 'better.' That something like the pandemic on a societal scale is actually a blessing in disguise because it at least keeps us from growing too 'bored' and thus wanting to kill ourselves, or something.

    Whether someone's individual personal experiences in coping with the pandemic left them in a personally better or worse place is, once more, a different conversation altogether. I am not looking to invalidate anyone's personal experiences with coping with any tragedy and how they pulled through the losses incurred by it. What I strongly object to is Endwalker's thesis is that, broadly, a pandemic-ridden world is preferable to a world without a pandemic on the basis of "making people stronger."
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    Last edited by Brinne; 11-15-2022 at 04:44 AM.