Jobs for players with bad latency and lag?

[RobynDaBank]

As someone with 150ms minimum... WAR, SMN, and WHM have been kind to my ping. The rest of them optimally need double-weave at some stage or another. I only have RPR at 90 but my impression of every melee DD is that they're cruel in this regard.

[Allegor]

While a lagging healer is definitely not what you want, shields are a bit more reliable as they do act as overheal allowing you to prepare for incoming damage a bit better. And i think sholar is on that slightly better than sage. Although both should work fine enough.

Earlier casting on normal healers can result in a wasted heal a lot faster.

I'd say SCH is actually the worst healer to play with high latency since unlike Sage (which isn't much better, mind you) you have to cast your shields, which may get a bit wasted if cast too early, but entirely wasted if cast too late, and that's not even mentioning all the ogcd weaving that will clip.

WHM is the best choice hands down because the job is not only bareboned with nearly no ogcd to begin with, it also has strong instant heals, so it's really forgiving for a late reaction.

[Aurikai]

Any class with low CPM should be friendly to lag
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...minute_by_job/

[UkcsAlias]

and that's not even mentioning all the ogcd weaving that will clip.

If you have lag (as in packet loss style) and latency, weaving will become very unreliable as it can only rely on it having queued. And as your timing will be off regardless, you want a healer that can apply the effect at both moments. A late shield is not wasted because the shield is still there! That shield acts the same as healing on that. Note that barely any attack will instantly take the HP away, and if it does, an early shield cast would at least have done something, with WHM the player is already dead before you know.

WHM at least has more regens which on that can be better as it grants more healing over time. And if nothing more is demanded, it obviously will work. But in that case, nearly all healers are going to do fine anyway. And below a certain level SCH does lack quite a lot of abilities that benefit when lagging (i would say below lvl 60 sch will indeed have some issues in such way it becomes a pain to handle).

Dont expect lagging players to follow perfect rotations, its not going to happen. So you want to ensure as much as possible is going to work succesfully. Weaving can be queued on that, which does benefit SCH as it does allow quite a bit of these. But reacting quickly isnt going to be possible. SCH can trigger a lot of these indirect effects that are timed perfectly on the server side, WHM has less of those. WHM only has higher raw output numbers on the healing.

You might think DPS matters here, but it doesnt. You will waste a lot of cycles, so optimizing dps is a 'best effort' case and losing 20% here wont matter in any of the dungeons. Only in things like savages you will realy need to optimize this, and thats something that if you are lagging is something i would highly discourage anyway.

But in the end, it depends on how severe the lagging is. If the game just goes into low fps or has a big (but reliable) latency, then most healers will work anyway as you can still follow the flow well. But the moment this isnt reliable, you are often down to guessing. And shields are more forgiving here. WHM only has sustained healing over time which helps a lot in most cases, but its those burst waves that are truly dangerous, and this is where WHM cant realy do a lot against.

[Raikai]

Dancer might suffer a bit with latency during their burst windows, in the case of your latency not allowing you to double weave without clipping.

I would say the most ping friendly job is BLM, due to the low number of weaving you need to do.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Basically anything that does a lot of double weaving, or single weaving under 1.5s GCD, that’s going to hurt your performance with moderately high pings.

For healers, AST is definitely no bueno. The only least concerning is quite possibly WHM because they have the least amount of tools to be weaved. You can’t play any of the barrier healers without clipping too much because large portion of their stronger & efficient heals comes from their abilities rather than healing spells.

[Travel]

So, to summarize from what I've been able to gather from the comments on here and some other boards, these are the jobs that are reliable for people with bag lag issues:

Tank:

- Warrior

- Paladin

Melee DPS

- There doesn't seem to be a general consensus on a single melee job that's good for laggy players; the only thing confirmed is that Reaper is a terrible pick.

Ranged DPS

- Dancer

Magic DPS

- Summoner

- Black Mage

- Red Mage

Healer

- White Mage

Anyone have anything that they want to add? Any suggestions to make, or jobs to add or subtract from the list?

[VictorSpoils]

So, to summarize from what I've been able to gather from the comments on here and some other boards, these are the jobs that are reliable for people with bag lag issues:

Tank:

- Warrior

- Paladin

Melee DPS

- There doesn't seem to be a general consensus on a single melee job that's good for laggy players; the only thing confirmed is that Reaper is a terrible pick.

Ranged DPS

- Dancer

Magic DPS

- Summoner

- Black Mage

- Red Mage

Healer

- White Mage

Anyone have anything that they want to add? Any suggestions to make, or jobs to add or subtract from the list?

Dragoon will probably be the best melee since Monk/Ninja/Samurai are all faster-paced. Black Mage doesn't weave that much but it's still a difficult job with a strict timer. Summoner also has quick Garuda GCDs that might clip and you don't want to miss that 6th Bahamut/Phoenix cast. Might also have to see what Paladin looks like after the rework, though it's unlikely they'll flood it with oGCDs.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Fast GCDs isn't really much of an issue for moderately high ping players. It's the instances when they want to weave something between those fast GCDs that the horrendous clipping becomes apparent (source: played with 220ms before :cry: ). So high ping SMNs will most likely avoid weaving anything extra during Garuda & Titan's phase. BLMs can get by with faster Sps to ensure server tick aren't trolling them.

Not sure about any of the melees to be frank. They all do have decent amount of double weaving in their (re)opener and I bet it'll feel terrible to just clipperino your way through.

[Jeeqbit]

- There doesn't seem to be a general consensus on a single melee job that's good for laggy players; the only thing confirmed is that Reaper is a terrible pick.

I didn't bother playing Reaper at max level but it was alright before getting the level 81-90 abilities. But I would say Monk, because it's not weave-heavy. Yes, it has a fast GCD but that isn't much of a problem when you are hardly weaving.