S-Rank mobs needs a invulnerability buff on S-RANKs

[Atelier-Bagur]

I wish there was a Zenos lingering will ala KH2FM that will actively hunt down every S-rank and you get a weird notification on screen telling your WoL you sense a malevolent presence and thats your time queue to fell the monster before he shows up and one shots it.

[Conadrium]

[QUOTE=Midareyukki;6128161
Yeah I really never got what blacklisting prevented exactly. I guess it discouraged people from early pulling because then they'd be banned from most controlled Linkshells and would be refused from parties. If they pulled, they'd also die and people were instructed not to raise them.[/QUOTE]

It’s not about the raise it’s about the rewards. Even if you’re going hard on the hunt mark if you aren’t in a party you’ll get greatly reduced rewards because you aren’t contributing as much. This is ALSO why it’s nearly impossible to get people to stop once the boss is pulled. No one wants reduced rewards.

I won’t say it’s IMPOSSIBLE to max out rewards yourself because I don’t have the numbers but I’ve done pulls where I couldn’t get into a party finder in time and got like 1/3rd the max reward.

[Deveryn]

If anything should actually get immunity, it's the SS pop (1 or 2 minutes). I've seen a few groups get screwed out of that because they had a long trip back from the last minion.

[Conadrium]

If anything should actually get immunity, it's the SS pop (1 or 2 minutes). I've seen a few groups get screwed out of that because they had a long trip back from the last minion.

I said that earlier in this thread. I don’t agree with a 10 minute because we should not have to wait for people on other servers but 3-5 is fine.

[Midareyukki]

It’s not about the raise it’s about the rewards. Even if you’re going hard on the hunt mark if you aren’t in a party you’ll get greatly reduced rewards because you aren’t contributing as much. This is ALSO why it’s nearly impossible to get people to stop once the boss is pulled. No one wants reduced rewards.

I won’t say it’s IMPOSSIBLE to max out rewards yourself because I don’t have the numbers but I’ve done pulls where I couldn’t get into a party finder in time and got like 1/3rd the max reward.

Go tank, spank it a bit to get aggro with your tank stance on after someone pulls. Source: I've done that before to generate aggro for a party with 3 people while shirking them.

[Deveryn]

Go tank, spank it a bit to get aggro with your tank stance on after someone pulls. Source: I've done that before to generate aggro for a party with 3 people while shirking them.

This is legit. Aside from being the safer option for mechs, it helps a lot to get credit.

[Themarvin]

Agreed with this. Fact is, people are not entitled to wait for others to arrive for S ranks, there is absolutely no rule in the game stating such. However, the whole system is just... not great. It feels bad, I don't understand how people find it fun, and I've seen so much drama come from it it's unreal.

Well if you get there 5 or 10 minutes after the first shoutout and complain... which many DO complain about in /shout chat, then I can't see why the person should wait 20 minutes untill taking it on though, because some peopel really expect that we have to wait for them no matter what everyone else say in Karen style, 95% of people taking part in them and the train has never really ever engaged themself in what it take to spawn some of these things, with exceptions of the few self spawners, and then show up and complain because they could not be bothered with stopping their current craft... just needed to do all retainers first.... for then being there 10 minutes to late and eg. seeing it die just before you get to it.

I agree to a 10min timer, gives people a fair chance, also some dork from whatever server cannot just attack to troll people either that way... then timers is once and for all 100% set.

[Jojoya]

The early release privileges on Faloop are given to the people who actually spawn S ranks which...doesn't feel terribly unreasonable to me.

I feel like there's a distinction to be made between an extremely comprehensive hunt tracker/relay vs. a proper third party add-on that is reading data from the game to immediately isolate a S rank's position and automatically relay it to every add-on/discord/whatever it's connected to.

There is a distinction. One is an effort by a self-selected few to control the community's participation in open world content for their own benefit at the expense of those others in the community. The other is an effort to keep the entire community informed as quickly as possible so they have a better chance to participate.

Spawners already know what's going on. They don't need an extra 1-2 minute headstart on everyone else.

It’s not about the raise it’s about the rewards. Even if you’re going hard on the hunt mark if you aren’t in a party you’ll get greatly reduced rewards because you aren’t contributing as much. This is ALSO why it’s nearly impossible to get people to stop once the boss is pulled. No one wants reduced rewards.

I won’t say it’s IMPOSSIBLE to max out rewards yourself because I don’t have the numbers but I’ve done pulls where I couldn’t get into a party finder in time and got like 1/3rd the max reward.

Except not everyone is after the same reward. A lot of players don't care about the tomestones/nuts/seals. They're swimming in them already. What they want is the kill credit toward their achievements and that doesn't require a party. It just requires a tap on the mark.

Getting full rewards solo on ARR/HW/SB shouldn't be a problem. As long as you're not late, you should be able to on ShB as well if you're using a max level 90 tank. It's only EW that really requires being in a party if there are a lot in attendance.

If you weren't able to find a group in PF or get others to join your listing, it sounds like you got a very delayed relay. I never have a problem as I list in PF as I'm on my way and it's usually filled with 10 seconds. On the rare occasions it's not, it's usually late night. If there are several others listed, I'll remove mine and join one of theirs.

[Canadane]

If anything should actually get immunity, it's the SS pop (1 or 2 minutes). I've seen a few groups get screwed out of that because they had a long trip back from the last minion.

Very few maps require actual waiting (Hello Kholusia). Almost all maps are small enough you'll make it, or the SS spawn location is near a teleport, so even the furthest away player can port over and hit it in a few seconds.

[ACE135]

The early release privileges on Faloop are given to the people who actually spawn S ranks which...doesn't feel terribly unreasonable to me.

I don't know how that works with Faloop but in the past the spawners were also just in their own link shell informing others in that link shell first before shouting to the "public" link shells. They waited 5, 10 and even more minutes to let their people finish whatever they were doing first sometimes and only then shouting in the other link shells.