Is SE planning to deal with ilvl cheese people?

[Midareyukki]

I don't need to cheese ilvl to get CT, I never unlock other alliance raid to begin with. Big brain move on alts. And you have to generously bribe me to unlock them (especially the Ivalice raid).

My alt is like this too, except I unlocked Ivalice thinking I might hit Bozja. I just won't get involved in that roulette or any other raids.

To be fair, considering how much experience Alliance Raid roulette gives out, is it even worth unlocking the rest? Nevermind enjoyment of the raids and all that, we can set that aside for now. What I'm referring to is the rewards that such a roulette give.

I remember at one point Alliance Raid roulettes giving off more than what they currently give. Ironically enough, I feel like PvP gives more experience for the same amount of time. You still get exp even if you lose. And there are better alternatives to cap out on tomestones.

Ivalice Raids are just there to unlock Bozja now, meaning it's only ever a necessity if you plan on doing the Resistance Weapon. NieR and Mhach don't even have that, and it doesn't seem like Aglaia is going to have such incentives either.

[Deveryn]

To be fair, considering how much experience Alliance Raid roulette gives out, is it even worth unlocking the rest? Nevermind enjoyment of the raids and all that, we can set that aside for now. What I'm referring to is the rewards that such a roulette give.

I remember at one point Alliance Raid roulettes giving off more than what they currently give. Ironically enough, I feel like PvP gives more experience for the same amount of time. You still get exp even if you lose. And there are better alternatives to cap out on tomestones.

Ivalice Raids are just there to unlock Bozja now, meaning it's only ever a necessity if you plan on doing the Resistance Weapon. NieR and Mhach don't even have that, and it doesn't seem like Aglaia is going to have such incentives either.

I recall boss xp being a thing in alliance raids. I just saw someone level in Paradigm the other day. In that respect, I think it would be worth the unlock.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Alliance Raid bosses does gives experience.

[AwesomeJr44]

Alliance Raid bosses does gives experience.

Assuming this is true (as I don't feel like fact checking it myself), I suppose the question would then be of whether the experience they give is worth doing a non-CT alliance raid. If not, perhaps it should be buffed to incentivize players to unlock the higher level ones. A lot of players would take a slightly lesser reward if it means doing a lot less work, so the reward needs to be worth their while.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Assuming this is true (as I don't feel like fact checking it myself), I suppose the question would then be of whether the experience they give is worth doing a non-CT alliance raid. If not, perhaps it should be buffed to incentivize players to unlock the higher level ones. A lot of players would take a slightly lesser reward if it means doing a lot less work, so the reward needs to be worth their while.

To give you one of my own anecdotal experience... for once I tried to farm for the Fending top from Rabanasty back in mid ShB era. I queued in manually as a GNB 36 times to get that top dropped. I started out from lv70 and ends somewhere around lv74 after the madness ends. Whether I had rested experience or not I don't quite remember, but I doubt I have any since it was a spamming done within a single week.

Now to what degree they should buff the experience to, I don't know.

[Kaliesto]

I don't know if there is any real solution, but I provided a certain idea over in the JPN forums -

Basically split all the alliance lvls into their own roulette by:

50/60 Alliance raid
70/80 Alliance raid
90 Alliance raid

However the problem with my solution is you're splitting the player pool, and which will create way longer queues. Our player base has a tendency to gradually decline during non-major patches.

I wish there was a better solution, alternatively if there is not enough players within a certain amount of queue time then maybe give players a Echo Buff to compensate for a lack of players within each alliance lvl-range just like Bozja's Dungeons.

Another solution is creating Main Scenario - Alliance Raid, any Alliance Raids is that permanently tied to the story will go here and the cutscenes in Alliance raids are very short, so that could be a slightly better solution as these players can spam Crystal Tower to their heart's content.

[DixieBellOCE]

I don't know if there is any real solution, but I provided a certain idea over in the JPN forums -

Basically split all the alliance lvls into their own roulette by:

50/60 Alliance raid
70/80 Alliance raid
90 Alliance raid

However the problem with my solution is you're splitting the player pool, and which will create way longer queues. Our player base has a tendency to gradually decline during non-major patches.

I wish there was a better solution, alternatively if there is not enough players within a certain amount of queue time then maybe give players a Echo Buff to compensate for a lack of players within each alliance lvl-range just like Bozja's Dungeons.

Another solution is creating Main Scenario - Alliance Raid, any Alliance Raids is that permanently tied to the story will go here and the cutscenes in Alliance raids are very short, so that could be a slightly better solution as these players can spam Crystal Tower to their heart's content.

Easier solution, move Crystal tower to 4man MSQ Roulette.

Base your queues on your character level, not your ilvl.

[Ralphe2449]

On a positive note, i finally was able to get copied factory done, queing on sunday evening aus time though which helped alot i would assume.

[Stanelis]

if you want to play an old-school MMO, FF XI is right there, still getting updates and still being supported.

Nowadays the ilevel system starts to feel really old shool, especially in FFXIV that has Ilevel scaling systems in place and minimalistic stats system. (Btw there is an ilevel system in FFXI too)

[Themarvin]

As mentioned before, the ilevel scales after the level you are which then is required for using the Alliance Raid Roulette, so at level 60 you must be the min ilevel of Dun Scaith to be able to queu at all, as well add the requirements that you need to have completed each one of the raids at least once to be able to queu at all.

They do that for the other roulettes as well, so it is no biggie, likewise can put the same scaling onto all the other roulettes as well, so when you queu for you will always be tossed in the maximum pool of available raids and dungeons... the diverstiy would be quite the nice thing.