Turn on Demolish for Housing and fix housing please.

[PirateRyanG]

I agree that auto demolition is a necessary evil so as to free up unused houses from inactive players due to limited supply.

However, I feel the current 45 days timer is too short and it should be extended to at least 90 days since that is the approximate duration between each patch cycle and players may unsubscribe between each patch but would still be considered active players.

That is 3 months without a sub.

While the auto-demolish timer is now 1 month without a sub.

Why should somebody not touching their home for 3-months be entitled to keep it when there are so many other active subs who don't get housing?

I mean, even putting that aside, Squaresoft isn't going to do something that makes them less money.

[TomsYoungerBro]

I think the main issue with the new lottery system is that there is no risk involved with trying to get a house. In the old system, you had to commit potentially several hours mindlessly clicking a sign and fighting bots doing the same thing. This discouraged a lot of people from even attempting. Now, you just need the gil and you can put a bid on a house risk free. Oh you lost? Here is 100% of your money back xD.

Now I do not want to go back to the old system, but if they are going to have a limited housing system, they need to add some sort of block to discourage people from getting a house. In a limited market, only those that really want a house should get one imo.

Edit: and yeah Demo needs to be turned back on ASAP.

[PirateRyanG]

I think the main issue with the new lottery system is that there is no risk involved with trying to get a house. In the old system, you had to commit potentially several hours mindlessly clicking a sign and fighting bots doing the same thing. This discouraged a lot of people from even attempting. Now, you just need the gil and you can put a bid on a house risk free. Oh you lost? Here is 100% of your money back xD.

Now I do not want to go back to the old system, but if they are going to have a limited housing system, they need to add some sort of block to discourage people from getting a house. In a limited market, only those that really want a house should get one imo.

Edit: and yeah Demo needs to be turned back on ASAP.

I mean, the block is requiring somebody to buy a sub every so often.

[xenahawk]

I've been trying to get a house on Lamia ever since this new lottery system was implemented and it is horrible!!!

Why is it bad??

1. Demolish is not turned on so houses never come back to the market.
2. Every house on Lamia is taken in Shirogane and Empyreum.
3. Only 1 chance per week.
4. Competition is 150+ in the lotto per attempt.

I'd gladly sit outside a house for 14 hours clicking multiple times a week against 10 ppl over only getting one chance a week again 150 people.

Seriously the worst idea ever.

I've been playing off and on since 1.0. I've come and gone and come back multiple times. Mainly just trying other thing. Nothing has ever really pissed me off and made me want to quit because of bad design until now. I never needed/wanted a house until Endwalker and I so wish I tried before Endwalker because this is seriously the dumbest design I have ever seen.

Just let us pay real life money for a premium ward with guaranteed housing or double/triple the gil cost for a premium ward. This is ridiculous!!

So you never really interacted with the placard scam of a lotto system but think it was a better system. You act like if you do it once for 14 hrs you get your house. Let me clearify that system gave people a false sense of control compared to the current lotto system. Coming from someone who has camped house prior to the lotto system to have the house sell when you take the risk to run to the bathroom or even when your clicking placard says not available then the next click says sold. Or best part is when your there clicking til your hand feels like its gonna fall off just to have someone relocate because homeowners could swoopin and just instantly do that. I totally feel for you i really lucked out to finally get my small plot when empyreum when square converter more wards from fc to private but not the placard was a nightmare. I personally hope that square just makes instance housing which is really the only fix. I know they said they are working on island sanctuary to let people use outdoor decorations to customize it more thats a step in the right direction.

[Ivtrix]

i disagree, i like being able to take a break and come back to my house without worry!

[Bukachu]

That is 3 months without a sub.

While the auto-demolish timer is now 1 month without a sub.

Why should somebody not touching their home for 3-months be entitled to keep it when there are so many other active subs who don't get housing?

I mean, even putting that aside, Squaresoft isn't going to do something that makes them less money.

Because 3 months is a very short period to take a break from something without losing access to it next time.

cant standd this disgusting apologistic behavior

wHy sHoUld SoMeOnE nOt pLaY gAmE fOr a wEeK aNd nOt hAvE tHeIr aCcouNt dElEteD?

[PirateRyanG]

Because 3 months is a very short period to take a break from something without losing access to it next time.

cant standd this disgusting apologistic behavior

wHy sHoUld SoMeOnE nOt pLaY gAmE fOr a wEeK aNd nOt hAvE tHeIr aCcouNt dElEteD?

If somebody isn't playing for 3 months, they are sitting on a limited resource. A resource that current players should be able to use.

Lose your house? Get back in the queue with all the other people that don't have houses.

[Bukachu]

If somebody isn't playing for 3 months, they are sitting on a limited resource. A resource that current players should be able to use.

Lose your house? Get back in the queue with all the other people that don't have houses.

you could also ask SE to make resource unlimited or less limited, instead of being apologist of their awful moneygrabbing system

[Shibi]

There are (or will be in 2 days) *lots* of housing on all 4 physical DCs.

I have no problems if demo is there when the housing has pretty much run out in the 4 zones, but if there are thousands of empty plots then autodemo really doesn't need to be on.

In before "bUt mY fC aNd fRiEnDs".

[Amarande]

So let me get this straight. Op never wanted a house until recently but had the maximum possible chances before now and is begging for anyway for them personally to get a house even if it hurts the game and others. And the cherry on top is asking for a system to return that will likely just take the house they begged for away anyways.

Of course it hurts individual players, but it's hard to argue it hurts the game. In fact, quite the opposite. Auto-demo helps the game, and its absence hurts it.

With auto-demo, players who want to keep a house are required to stay active and subscribing in order to do so; those who lapse return their land to the market on a regular basis, so that other, then-active, players get a turn. Without it, you get the situation where people join or return the game, are repeatedly reminded of housing and its benefits, and then throw their hands up in despair because it's literally easier to win in real life gambling than to get one. The result is that both housed and unhoused players are that much more likely to unsub.

Apartments only partially alleviate the problem, due to having such a limited subset of a "real" house's functions (due to a lack of outdoor access). Meanwhile SE repeatedly reminds you of that fact too (since among the housing items that are tossed at you on a regular basis are plenty of Outdoor Furnishings).

It seems like the "solution" for that was that you were supposed to put those furnishings up at the FC house instead, perhaps? Realistically, most will never get to do that either, because FCs normally maintain very tight control over housing decoration (as with most shared FC resources it tends to be an officers-only perk).

That has even more far-ranging effects on the community, too: large FCs become unstable compared to guilds elsewhere, because people are inclined to spall off in small groups for the sake of a separate FC house to themselves (also along the way promoting TOS violations when shell FCs are purchased illicitly as a means of house transference).

What becomes of the FC community in that case? Linkshells have too little capacity, and Fellowships seem to be a graveyard (most seem to realistically just serve to inform where the discord link is). As a result, the community is almost forced to move to social media as their main hangout. Besides the negative effects this can foster (knock-ons of the policy requirements from the SM platforms), the upshot is that FFXIV goes from being a focus to merely a launch pad for external communities (many of whose members rapidly drift away from the game they met in, and unsub).

Compared to this, inactive individuals, even ones who became inactive by force and not choice, losing their homes seems a small cost indeed.

I have no problems if demo is there when the housing has pretty much run out in the 4 zones, but if there are thousands of empty plots then autodemo really doesn't need to be on.

These thousands of empty plots only occur during new land rollouts, which creates an intensive FOMO effect and player stampedes (on a server system which we should repeatedly know by now is not well equipped to handle); people who weren't around for a few specific events ultimately have only the barest of chances.

This then forces SE to roll out even more land regularly, but how long can that be sustained at server level for (especially if 7.0 is as popular as Endwalker)?