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  1. #101
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    Van Arn
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    I'm pretty sure a friend that's hard-pressed to spend $30 on a mount would appreciate a $30 game time code.

    Or just throw the entire holiday in the trash. Christmas won't happen this year, little Timmy, because Christmas was canceled.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanaii View Post
    I'm pretty sure a friend that's hard-pressed to spend $30 on a mount would appreciate a $30 game time code.

    Or just throw the entire holiday in the trash. Christmas won't happen this year, little Timmy, because Christmas was canceled.
    People would be fine with it if it actually did anything to fight RMT, but it really isnt doing anything.
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  3. #103
    Player Aword3213's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    People would be fine with it if it actually did anything to fight RMT, but it really isnt doing anything.
    how do you know it didn't? Resulted impact, no matter how small, should count because that's the definition of ANY.

    Or are you currently doing some shady transactions right now and thus unhindered by their new policies?
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  4. #104
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    You know why this happened? Because people bought codes with stolen or otherwise compromised credit cards, listed those codes for resale from legitimate purchasers looking for a deal, and then eventually the original purchase was noticed by the stolen/compromised cardholder and the charge reversed.

    Payment processors do not like this. If you make your payment processor angry with you, they drop you. I imagine SE uses a first tier processor, and if you get dropped by one of them none of the others will take you. Chargebacks happened, processors told SE to <do this thing now>, SE complied.

    Square Enix didn't ruin Christmas, people stealing things ruined your give away and I really suspect Square Enix didn't have much of a choice but to comply with a request from a big payment processor.
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaphire View Post
    You know why this happened? Because people bought codes with stolen or otherwise compromised credit cards, listed those codes for resale from legitimate purchasers looking for a deal, and then eventually the original purchase was noticed by the stolen/compromised cardholder and the charge reversed.

    Payment processors do not like this. If you make your payment processor angry with you, they drop you. I imagine SE uses a first tier processor, and if you get dropped by one of them none of the others will take you. Chargebacks happened, processors told SE to <do this thing now>, SE complied.

    Square Enix didn't ruin Christmas, people stealing things ruined your give away and I really suspect Square Enix didn't have much of a choice but to comply with a request from a big payment processor.
    I'd tend to agree and would suggest it's the people stealing things who require a visit from three ghosts to teach them the true meaning of Christmas rather than SE.
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  6. #106
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    how do you know it didn't? Resulted impact, no matter how small, should count because that's the definition of ANY.

    Or are you currently doing some shady transactions right now and thus unhindered by their new policies?
    The hell kind of accusations is this lmao, also I would advice you to check under Limsa on Phantom, and please report back to me and tell me anything has changed.

    There's about 40 lalas under the ground sitting there teleporting all over the place, which is the same if not more than it was before this "fix", I wouldnt call that any better.

    Glitch your camera a little and you will see what I'm talking about.
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  7. #107
    Player Aword3213's Avatar
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    Eizen Aifread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    The hell kind of accusations is this lmao, also I would advice you to check under Limsa on Phantom, and please report back to me and tell me anything has changed.

    There's about 40 lalas under the ground sitting there teleporting all over the place, which is the same if not more than it was before this "fix", I wouldnt call that any better.

    Glitch your camera a little and you will see what I'm talking about.
    I believe RMT is more likely to be involved in activities outside the game, like Mogstations. The purported lala you described is more likey to be botting, cheating, and gil farming, which has very little to do with this topic
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  8. #108
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaphire View Post
    You know why this happened? Because people bought codes with stolen or otherwise compromised credit cards, listed those codes for resale from legitimate purchasers looking for a deal, and then eventually the original purchase was noticed by the stolen/compromised cardholder and the charge reversed.

    Payment processors do not like this. If you make your payment processor angry with you, they drop you. I imagine SE uses a first tier processor, and if you get dropped by one of them none of the others will take you. Chargebacks happened, processors told SE to <do this thing now>, SE complied.

    Square Enix didn't ruin Christmas, people stealing things ruined your give away and I really suspect Square Enix didn't have much of a choice but to comply with a request from a big payment processor.
    It's funny how suspicion is directed at the wrong people, especially here. SE is supposedly an evil corporation looking to steal your money and do other horrible things. Meanwhile, some kind soul is offering a discount on their wares.
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  9. #109
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    Ashiee Horokeu
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    Not that I use the cash shop often or give out codes often, but can SE not make some type of currency card via physical retail stores where they do not have to deal with scammers directly. I figured that would be a decent solution unless it's just too much money to produce or that those physical cards are also easily vulnerable to scams.
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  10. #110
    Player Aword3213's Avatar
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    Eizen Aifread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    The hell kind of accusations is this lmao
    I'm not trying to accuse you of anything. If you felt that way, I apologize

    It's just your statement "it if it actually did anything to fight RMT, but it really isnt doing anything." is such a strong claim. I assume you know some inner working of RMT.

    Also if you ever bothered to read those official announcement on Lodestone, SE has been warning us about the growth of account hijacking for months.

    Players didn't care, and changes to Mogstation happened.


    double post because my internet died. can't edit with cellphone
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