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  1. #11
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    They should just move tower raids into the main story roulette at this point.
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    That picture proves nothing because I get the alliance raids from all expansions at equal frequency when I queue.

    You are on Materia, right? The data center that everyone says is dead?
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    That picture proves nothing because I get the alliance raids from all expansions at equal frequency when I queue.

    You are on Materia, right? The data center that everyone says is dead?
    Yep though I never had an issue with ques like that, was able to do all content and previous alliance raids just fine, the endwalker/shadowbringers ones are the one that seem to take forever

    Technically the shadowbringers raid did pop at the 6-7 hour mark twice but someone declined or were afk -_-
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    The tryhard elitist is the person who is going to finish their 5 pieces on this created to be beaten """"challenge"""" and then complaint that the baby, slower or less dexterous person are a problem which not only is toxic but indirectly implies that doing this basic created to be beaten task faster is an """achievement""" of """great skill""" which helps to falsely boost the elitist's self worth as that is their true motive, if challenge was truly their desire they would relish in the chance to do more than the rest.
    The healthy person on the other hand will either let people finish their part or assist them for their self worth does not depend on solving basic puzzles created to be beaten, aka as a video game.

  4. #14
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    Van Arn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    They should just move tower raids into the main story roulette at this point.
    This really makes the most sense in the long run. Even if they "fix" ct by adjusting the difficulty or blocking ilvl cheese, alliance raid roulette is still going to be crystal tower roulette due to the story requirement.

    Moving CT to MSQ roulette also strongarms players (if they want the alliance roulette bonus) into unlocking at least one alliance raid series that still has mechanics.
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    Last edited by vanaii; 10-31-2022 at 11:30 PM.

  5. #15
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    SE's had years to deal with this, but as far as I know, they won't even acknowledge that it's a problem. Because of this, the "solution" has fallen on the community.
    If this were happening in a more toxic community, there would be twitter accounts set up that named and shamed these people and just had pictures for days of players loading into labyrinth without any gear, but we only suffer from toxic positivity here, which translates to "jUsT LeT tHe ChEeSy bOi pLaY hOw hE wAnTs" even though these people combined with the actual newbies doing mandatory CT have made it so alliance raid roulette is 99% crystal tower.

    There are so many ways to alleviate this even without touching the item level shenanigans. Just give people reasons to run Ivalice and we'll see more Ivalice queues popping. When Bozja came out and Ivalice was a requirement to go, suddenly I started seeing more Ivalice raids in my roulette. Crazy. And yeah in a perfect world they'd either revamp crystal tower so its mechanics actually mattered, or they'd just add it to msq roulette so ilvl cheesers can stick us in Void Ark every day instead.

    edit: Also whether the OP's on Materia or not is moot for the main point. We've all had to deal with this BS. I don't even bother queuing alliance raid roulette anymore; I just queue the fun shit directly, because it's almost never good raids anymore. Sometimes I literally queue alliance raid roulette before bed, and if it's a CT with no first timers I just drop and go to bed. Enjoy your free ticket out, everyone else. This one's on me.
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    Last edited by Avoidy; 10-31-2022 at 11:57 PM.

  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralphe2449 View Post


    This is getting a bit much
    How about removing ilvl altogether and go back to old school systems that were more fun and engaging?
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    While ilevel cheese certainly happens, it is not the main cause of "Syrcus Tower roulette".

    Crystal Tower is the lowest common denominator. Literally every single person doing alliance roulette has it unlocked by default. In order to get Puppet Bunker in roulette all 24 people have to be level 80+ and have the dungeon unlocked. Meanwhile it only takes a single player under level 60 or with no other raids unlocked to force the other 23 into CT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralphe2449 View Post


    This is getting a bit much
    According to our beloved community Ivalice-Nier dungeons are bad because they are "too long" and "harder" than CT, so its better this way to keep doing the same Raid from almost 1 decade ago every single day of our lives in FFXIV.
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  9. #19
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    Miyako Aikawa
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    Ilvl cheese is only a small part of it, so it wouldn't help much to "deal with it" anyways.

    All roulettes accessible before max level inevitably favor the lowest level instances in the group, simply because a, more people have those instances unlocked, and b, people typically use these roulettes to level with, so are usually queued on jobs that don't have access to the max level raids in particular.

    So you probably hate to hear it, but if SE eliminated ilvl cheese you'd still be getting CT most of the time, just as leveling roulette tends to give you things like Sastasha and rarely the more interesting stuff ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunalepsy View Post
    How about removing ilvl altogether and go back to old school systems that were more fun and engaging?
    if you want to play an old-school MMO, FF XI is right there, still getting updates and still being supported.
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