Healers need an overhaul

[Deceptus]

Misery - only after 3 lily skills used

And a minimum 60s CD (Lily timer)

Cards - WHY ARE YOU LISTING THESE HERE!?.

For some the same reason they listed Chain Stratagem as a "DPS ability". . . reasons.

They're trying to show personal DPS options on healers and then for some reason include group buffs in there to pad out the numbers.

[RyuDragnier]

And a minimum 60s CD (Lily timer)



For some the same reason they listed Chain Stratagem as a "DPS ability". . . reasons.

They're trying to show personal DPS options on healers and then for some reason include group buffs in there to pad out the numbers.

I think they're just not wanting to admit that healers are in fact in need of more damage spells to make things less boring. I excluded Sage because Phlegma at least is a full on damage move with no healing attached...and judging from the post above, they're trying to compare it with oGCDs you can't compare it to because they either require you to sacrifice healing (Energy Drain takes Aetherflow) or are used for the heal mostly. Phlegma is pure damage.

[AnotherPerson]

I think they're just not wanting to admit that healers are in fact in need of more damage spells to make things less boring. I excluded Sage because Phlegma at least is a full on damage move with no healing attached...and judging from the post above, they're trying to compare it with oGCDs you can't compare it to because they either require you to sacrifice healing (Energy Drain takes Aetherflow) or are used for the heal mostly. Phlegma is pure damage.

What gave you that impression? I want ALL healers to have more damage tools, not JUST White mage. Especially on Sage. Just because Sage has "Toxikon II" or Phlegma it doesn't make the rotation any more interesting than what any other healer has as the "DPS to heal" healer. I'm just pointing out that Sage doesn't have more DPS tools than other healers.

Phlegma is pure damage, but are you implying you hold Assize to only heal? Even when it's your skill you should be using 24/7 when it's your only source of MP recovery outside of Lucid Dreaming? I understand if you want to hold Assize for a small duration of time to heal for a mechanic, but drifting it too much and losing a cast is more detrimental than simply using a GCD heal because Assize is a bigger DPS loss than Glare. It's pretty much in the same vein as using the skill 24/7.

Phlegma is also one of those skills you want to put in a burst window when it aligns, so it's not as if you want to use it all the time even if it gives mobility. The skill you use for mobility is Toxikon II, but you still rely on Slidecasting with Dosis III regardless since Toxikon II is highly limited. Same goes with every healer at this point. SCH, especially, since Energy Drain is a bigger dps tax with Ruin II than with simply weaving it in Broil.

[RyuDragnier]

Phlegma is also one of those skills you want to put in a burst window when it aligns, so it's not as if you want to use it all the time even if it gives mobility. The skill you use for mobility is Toxikon II, but you still rely on Slidecasting with Dosis III regardless since Toxikon II is highly limited. Same goes with every healer at this point. SCH, especially, since Energy Drain is a bigger dps tax with Ruin II than with simply weaving it in Broil.

I really feel like the only problem with Toxicon is Addersting. You only get it for a single target shield breaking, which IMO should be changed. You should also get one for using Addersgall. Since this then allows for a Toxicon more often, which spices up Sage a little. Sage IMO is the easiest to fix for that very reason, as every Toxicon is basically just an instant Dosis.