Brian from Work 2 Game is leaving FFXIV

[Absimiliard]

Welp, I can tell you from experience there are people on these forums that will happily take their disputes in-game. I used to have my main linked on here. I also used to be very vocal about certain things I didn't like overmuch. This was not a good combination, and it certainly did result in me catching some hell in-game. As this occurred back when people were a lot less... we'll say, zealous, in how they approached subjects on these forums, I absolutely cannot blame someone for wanting to stay under the radar nowadays.

Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, this place has become a bit of a cesspit over the years. Certain people will take just about anything they don't agree with as some kind of personal insult to their honor. It's excessively difficult just to engage civil discourse without it being assailed by at least one person feeling the need to come in and start throwing out bait, insults, or what have you.

[Kozh]

That group is doing a lot more than posting dissenting opinions.

Oh really? You have source on that or are you just talking bs?

[vanaii]

Oh really? You have source on that or are you just talking bs?

I simply know I'm currently a target of identity theft, and hiding my identity would just make me easier to replace with a double.

So I post about caramel sauce on rice.

I don't particularly care if the wider forums believe me.

[Deveryn]

Considering how many people on these forums foam at the mouth and go berserk if they see him post a thread, I can see why Aveyond wouldn't have his main displayed on the forums. Yes, you can just report anyone who contacts you in-game to the GMs, but why bother with that when you can just not give them your main's name and world? I have my main as my displayed character but I don't see what the big deal is if someone doesn't. This just feels like the same kind of nonsense you can find from people on Twitter who say you're a coward if your profile picture isn't a picture of yourself. It's just a reason to disagree with Aveyond on something. It's not dishonest to not share your main character with randoms on the internet. I personally don't want people that I don't know from the forums contacting me in-game, and that has nothing to do with what I say, even if said person contacting me is doing so to tell me that they agree with me. It's pretty ridiculous to expect everyone to be comfortable with having their main listed as their character on the forums, and if you genuinely think that it's dishonest to not do so, you're probably part of the reason people like Aveyond aren't comfortable doing so.



Using the word harassment incorrectly doesn't suddenly change things that aren't harassment into harassment.

You really love to inflate this whole idea that anyone who disagrees with him would do such a thing.... as if he's saying anything that would legitimately cause someone to go that route. He is a joke, periodt. He brings this on himself. No one respects him. I guarantee no one is interested in seeking out his silly ass in game to harass him.

If he were to drop the high and mighty bullshit and just talk plainly about -his- own gripes and not repeat himself every patch and LL, people would just leave it be. Talk some sense into him, if you're so tight with him. See what happens around here.

[Kozh]

what is there to hide from if you truly stand behind the opinions you express here?

This is my main (should be obvious from how almost every day my avatar is switching what it's wearing). I have no problems posting from it. I have yet to be harassed or had any unpleasant encounter as a result after 4 years. The most that has happened is the occasional player will say they recognize my name from the forums.

I figure if some psycho takes a forum argument into the game and starts harasssing me, it's an opportunity to rid the game of a psycho by reporting the encounter to the GMs. Most players aren't going to risk the ban. You're a lot more likely to get attacked on the subreddit, Twitter, etc. and since I don't post on those things, it won't be a problem for me.

idk maybe because you don't post "hot takes"? Why would you be harassed if you're part of the "majority"?

And since when posting with alts is sign of cowardice? It's a smart thing to be as incognito as possible when on online. Especially since SE is weird regarding their TOS. I don't know if the situation is still the same, but I recall someone telling their experience on being stalk. But since their stalker doesn't say anything or do anything drastic, the mods doesn't do anything since technically it isn't breaking TOS.

Also why would we need to wait until we're being harassed before we use alts? That defeats the purpose.

You might chalk this up as me defending aveyond, but nope it's just mind-boggling to me that people have put their life on the line (hyperbolic in case some people don't get it) just to "prove" something. Like, I don't give a crap if that's your main or alt account, and that applies to everybody else. I still gonna assume that you, the person behind jojoya, is being genuine with your opinions.

[Absimiliard]

The fact this thread became about Aveyond's privacy and preferences after but a single post regarding them says several things, and none of those things are good - but several are hilarious.

[Kozh]

I simply know I'm currently a target of identity theft, and hiding my identity would just make me easier to replace with a double.

So I post about caramel sauce on rice.

I don't particularly care if the wider forums believe me.

I.... What? You really lost me here. Are you okay? You're not sick?

What does this have anything to do with us?

[AwesomeJr44]

You really love to inflate this whole idea that anyone who disagrees with him would do such a thing.... as if he's saying anything that would legitimately cause someone to go that route. He is a joke, periodt. He brings this on himself. No one respects him. I guarantee no one is interested in seeking out his silly ass in game to harass him.

If he were to drop the high and mighty bullshit and just talk plainly about -his- own gripes and not repeat himself every patch and LL, people would just leave it be. Talk some sense into him, if you're so tight with him. See what happens around here.

Deveryn, you have no right to claim that someone else is a joke. Your takes are consistently worse than even Aveyond's worst threads (example: your absolutely ridiculous take on posters not showing their main). I don't agree with Aveyond on every opinion he has, but even in his worst posts there's some level of thought there. And no, I didn't say that anyone who disagrees with him would do that, only some people. If anyone was going to be harassed, it's Aveyond because he frequently posts things that aren't popular with the most vocal posters. And if I had to put money on who would do it, you're probably one of them considering that you care about him sharing his main character's name and world so much. That seems a little suspicious.

The fact this thread became about Aveyond's privacy and preferences after but a single post regarding them says several things, and none of those things are good - but several are hilarious.

It is very hilarious. They're obsessed with him to the point where it's almost sad at the same time. When Aveyond went MIA for a bit, there were entire threads created just to bait him into interacting.

idk maybe because you don't post "hot takes"? Why would you be harassed if you're part of the "majority"?

To these people, being harassed is an impossibility because their hottest takes are about as hot as a tub of ice cream that's been left in the freezer for a week.

And since when posting with alts is sign of cowardice? It's a smart thing to be as incognito as possible when on online.

Agreed. The only reason I use my main is because I just literally do not care enough about it to make an alt to have as my display character. I still would prefer not to be contacted, but I probably care a lot less than most would.

Also why would we need to wait until we're being harassed before we use alts? That defeats the purpose.

It does. And that's the point. They can't harass you if you use preventative measures.

You might chalk this up as me defending aveyond,

Saying that Aveyond has a point or that he gets a lot of undeserved hate is enough to land you in the Aveyond Defender Club, so welcome. We have cookies.

[Theodric]

I don't blame anyone for choosing to keep the identity of their main character hidden from the more deranged elements of this game's community. At least one of the male elezen posting in this thread made a post the other day - now deleted - actively wishing for someone to dox and ban another poster and I can attest to being stalked many times by complete nutters who can't separate reality from fiction and harass anyone who is fond of this game's antagonists.

It's also pretty standard practice for a lot of people to not want to broadcast every last little detail of their online or real lives to complete strangers. It has nothing to do with 'cowardice' no matter how often some try to frame it as such.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

It's also pretty standard practice for a lot of people to not want to broadcast every last little detail of their online or real lives to complete strangers. It has nothing to do with 'cowardice' no matter how often some try to frame it as such.

...was that even argued?
The conversation is about using your Main on a freaking Videogame forum, and it somehow became about more then that. My Goodness.

It is very hilarious. They're obsessed with him to the point where it's almost sad at the same time. When Aveyond went MIA for a bit, there were entire threads created just to bait him into interacting.

I dont know if the Hamburger thread had anything to really do with Aveyond...but then a few people brought him up out of nowhere.
Whatev, I just enjoyed a good conversation about food :2