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    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerlilley View Post
    Imagine banning gifts right before Christmas.

    Unbelievable.
    It's Square Enix, anything that anyone would deem unbelievable happens, and yet some people will still shill and defend this company at all cost lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    It's Square Enix, anything that anyone would deem unbelievable happens, and yet some people will still shill and defend this company at all cost lol.
    All costs? No. Am I happy about it? No.

    Does it make sense? Yes, sadly.

    Was it necessary? Yes I think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    All costs? No. Am I happy about it? No.

    Does it make sense? Yes, sadly.

    Was it necessary? Yes I think so.
    I disagree. A solution that affects the paying players who use this service for community building and gift giving is not a solution. We're being punished for actions of a minority.
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    I disagree. A solution that affects the paying players who use this service for community building and gift giving is not a solution. We're being punished for actions of a minority.
    ...aand your solution is...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    ...aand your solution is...?
    TBH that's the job of people who're paid to think those up, over at SQEX. This is not a customer-friendly change, whatever it is, so they should consider something different. IDK what, I'm not an expert on online game stores. But I do understand that as a customer it hurts me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    ...aand your solution is...?
    Keep the restrictions to friend list and this new tracking system they have now. There's no reason to remove items from being gifted.

    If they had better systems, ideally the solution would also prevent you from gifting a mount/minion your friend already has but I highly doubt their backend could handle something like that.

    Or actually, maybe they could, you certainly can't buy or roll for exclusive mounts/minions/music in game if you already have it. Even the scrip mastercrafter and gathering books tell you if you've already purchased them, which was an excellent QOL.

    Just stating "well there are people who are abusing the system so now NONE of you can use it" is short sighted and ridiculous. Literally punishing the people who are, and want to, support them the most.
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    Last edited by Tigerlilley; 10-26-2022 at 02:27 PM.

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    Keep the restrictions to friend list and this new tracking system they have now. There's no reason to remove items from being gifted.
    For ages you lot have been arguing for SE to do something about RMT. Okay, thats good, so far, so hoopy.

    Then they do something.

    And you still complain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Was it necessary? Yes I think so.
    You're thinking wrong. There were other better solutions they could have taken. But they took this because it's easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    You're thinking wrong. There were other better solutions they could have taken. But they took this because it's easy.
    To be fair, we don't know their internal limitations. Their solution seems to be short-sighed and there's no doubt it's unpleasant to the playerbase, but context is needed to judge. Sometimes those ugly fixes are the only possible recourse.
    I just hope they won't leave it as such and implement a better system later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    You're thinking wrong. There were other better solutions they could have taken. But they took this because it's easy.
    Businesses generally aren't going to opt for the easy solution among multiple available choices when that solution ends up losing them a significant amount of money during the biggest money making part of the year for anyone selling products.

    If they're opting for the easy solution, it's being done as a stop gap measure to get losses under control while they are working on a better solution that will allow them to go back to selling what customers want to be buying.

    It's really entertaining to watch as segments of this community swivel from "SE is just a money hungry company out to rip us off via mogstation transactions" to "how dare SE not allow us to give them money to buy items from the mogstation" as if SE is on a constant mission to victimize everyone.

    SE is a for-profit company. They want to make money. Part of making money is selling the things people want to buy. Part of making money is not spending money unnecessarily. Part of making money is keeping your business partners willing to do business with you. The account compromise situation, which was no fault of SE's, has caused SE to lose a large amount of money and made some of their essential business partners very unhappy. They're in damage control mode.

    And it's happening because others have acted irresponsibly, whether it's the player who thinks the too good to be true deal is legitimate or unrelated companies who couldn't be bothered to make certain their databases were sufficiently secured.

    There's nothing stopping any of you from purchasing gifts for your FFXIV friends off the cash shop. All that must change is what you choose to gift. It doesn't stop streamers, other content creators, clubs or FCs from holding giveaways. Again, it's just choose different items and wait the extra 3 days for the code to get purchased and sent.

    Don't like the gifting restrictions? Thank the cheaters who'd rather give their money to criminals instead of giving it to those who actually make the game.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 10-26-2022 at 02:09 PM.

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