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  1. #121
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    Bukachu's Avatar
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    SE being complete circus yet again I thought I was done with circus when I stopped associating with blizzard but its exact same thing here.
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  2. #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    What would that check prevent?

    All the scammer has to do is buy the item on a character account that doesn't own the item.

    Am I misunderstanding this?
    That's not about the scammers. The system apparently has issues checking on the one time use items (mounts, minions, emotes, barding, orchestrion rolls, face paint) that get registered to a character/account, which may cause problems if duplicate gift purchases are made. Maybe they ran out of time to program it or the resources are segmented in some weird way that the store can't request that particular data?

    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    All your telling me is that this move by Squeenix is a massive overreach.
    It was bad enough that they felt it needed addressing. As a business they had to make a decision on if it was better to alter the gifting option or ineffectively wave their finger at people making 3rd party purchases. I can't blame them for trying to squash the issue, but this does put a hamper on legitimate gift purchases of a lot of popular items.
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    Last edited by Dustytome; 10-26-2022 at 02:22 AM.

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    Maya Jcb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    That's not about the scammers. The system apparently has issues checking on the one time use items (mounts, minions, emotes, barding, orchestrion rolls, face paint) that get registered to a character/account, which may cause issues if duplicate gift purchases are made. Maybe they ran out of time to program it or the resources are segmented in some weird way that the store can't request that particular data?
    Small indie company yes, I'm sure they dont have enough money, maybe we should start a gofundme
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  4. #124
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Oh no, how will RP venues be able to lure people to attend their crappy openings if they don't have cash shop items as prizes?
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  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    Oh no, how will RP venues be able to lure people to attend their crappy openings if they don't have cash shop items as prizes?
    On a more serious note, this puts a wrench into the just completed FC and friends only events we just had for Halloween.
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    It was bad enough that they felt it needed addressing. As a business they had to make a decision on if it was better to alter the gifting option or ineffectively wave their finger at people making 3rd party purchases. I can't blame them for trying to squash the issue, but this does put a hamper on legitimate gift purchases of a lot of popular items.
    You don't address it by screwing over your paying customers. They just damaged their game.
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  7. #127
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    Riamara Skye
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    Quote Originally Posted by AshDidit View Post
    SO you've basically punished the law/rule abiding players for what criminals have done

    But... you ADMIT that the criminals will CONTINUE doing it?

    And you've limited what we can give to our friends (of 72 hours or more) to the most ridiculous 'gift' items you sell? So.. I can no longer give my bestie a minion because some RMT scumbag bought one and resold it in game for gil? GIL?! PIXEL MONEY?

    I am being restricted... over pixel money... and other people's criminal behavior that you ADMIT OPENLY they are still ABLE TO DO?

    Why did you not just make it so that the items can only be bought with credit cards and make it so those credit cards have to match exactly the name and address on the account buying it?

    THAT would have actually LESSENED the RMT activity of using 'stolen credit cards' to RMT mog items...

    That would reduce the number of people reselling items because it can be immediately tracked back to the player...

    All your 'fix' does is punish those of us who would never abuse the system to begin with.

    A complete 'jerk move'. I do not approve. Let me give my friends minions again.

    #freetheminions
    sheesh
    Of course it will continue. The companies make a lot of money as players continue to cheat and destroy the economy. Why would they stop? I approve of SE doing ANYTHING to stop this garbage.
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  8. #128
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    Merry Christmas

    And you do this right before Christmas? Do you have any idea how much this hurts your loyal players? I myself have gifted and been gifted multiple items in the "Mount, Minion, Emote" realm because those are the most popular.

    This is a foolish decision based on NOTHING proven. This will do absolutely nothing to stop them. They always find a way around this in no time, thus all you are doing with this is hurting your loyal players and making us angry.
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  10. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    Of course it will continue. The companies make a lot of money as players continue to cheat and destroy the economy. Why would they stop? I approve of SE doing ANYTHING to stop this garbage.
    It will do exactly nothing to stop them. No game has ever proven and shown any data that says "Restricting certain parts of the game stops gold sellers." This is because the sellers will always, without exception, just find another means.

    The only proven method is to have a dedicated staff that hunts them down and handles them case by case. Nothing else works. Nothing else will ever work without hurting the game in ways that will make people jump ship.
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  11. #130
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    Ruko Sunko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    Of course it will continue. The companies make a lot of money as players continue to cheat and destroy the economy. Why would they stop? I approve of SE doing ANYTHING to stop this garbage.
    This affects the playerbase more negatively than positively, i'm not sure this is the right way to handle that situation.
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