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  1. #21
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    Nav_Fae's Avatar
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    Mizuchi Hikaze
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    I feel like I meet more EU people in Balmung thanI do NA players. At least im terms of natives. I know "the bench" is mostly EU players at the very least. So the only cultural thing I know of with EU players is they are h***ier and bolder about it.
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  2. #22
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    I feel like I meet more EU people in Balmung thanI do NA players. At least im terms of natives. I know "the bench" is mostly EU players at the very least. So the only cultural thing I know of with EU players is they are h***ier and bolder about it.
    That could be because Balmung was the most famous RP server back when the EU community was very small with hardly any servers. It made more sense to go to Balmung. For a lot of reasons it has attracted people like a tourist destination throughout the game's history.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    It is not only that tho, NA players are way more rude and entitled. I played for example when Eureka was still fresh on both NA and EU and well on NA NM were instantly pulled without waiting a second, on EU on the other hand people even nowdays wait for 5 sometimes even 10 minutes. On NA that kind of behavior is unthinkable. Also the shout and yell chat on NA is always used for...well random people talking about random crap. While on JP and EU literally nobody uses these two chat functions besides from the really rare advertisement for a venue or an fc. Raiding would be just the icing on top and probably really funny to watch when NA players get presented with macros...
    Sounds to me like you're letting your own biases cloud the facts. NA and EU players behave almost identically. The venue spam, the habit of shouting random dumb crap, and even preferring faster, more aggressive jank tactics over the use of the "safe" strategies typically employed by the JP player-base are all shared characteristics. There is almost no difference between these two demographics other than NA players having a tendency to be a bit more competitive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    You mean you haven't discovered yet that EU uses macros and NA doesn't? Or that the NA yell/shout chat is used as a public chat channel while these on EU are not used? Or the differences when it comes to hunt trains and content like bozja/eureka etc.?
    NA players frequently employ macros to streamline their PF runs. EU players use shout for public chat on just about every server with any real activity. I've yet to see any difference in how they approach hunts, Eureka, or Bozja either, save perhaps that the NA guys tend to move more quickly. They expect you to respond to callouts quickly, generally providing a 2-3 minute window to get from one NM or event to the next. This is a reasonable time frame.
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    Last edited by Absimiliard; 10-25-2022 at 11:59 PM.

  4. #24
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    Rehayem's Avatar
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    Yasu Naoya
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    We all know the differences between things mentioned above (EU/JP uses macro, NA wants to freeball everything, etc).

    However, how many players from NA would actually travel to EU for raiding? Or vice versa? Such people would need to compromise to the changes and accept how it's done on EU or how it's done on NA. People want cross DC travel because they want to do stuff with friends, not particularly PF raiding.

    I'm not mentioning JP here because JP peeps love to keep to themselves, it's just how they are. But JP DC travel with OCE would help, since lots of OCE people already played JP servers. Differences are minimal. My main focus is NA/EU really.
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  5. #25
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    A'carisa Merahk
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    As someone who has played on both NA and EU DC, there is nothing those two places could do to each other that they aren't already doing to themselves. EU is incapable of actually reading the macros they use and presume it's whatever their favoured "standard macro" is, then throw a fit when it isn't. NA does the same, just without macros, where no one reads the PF strat descriptions and then throws a fit if it is not the one they are familiar with.

    If Square wants to wall off the JP DCs, that's fine by me, but EU, NA and OCE really have no good reason to be walled off form each other. For OCE it might be an even bigger benefit cause then players from those regions might feel more comfortable moving their characters there without losing access to their statics and friends on other DCs.
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  6. #26
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    Mika Zahard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    Title says it all.

    I get it, I'm gonna get dunked on again "wHy plAY NA sErvERs iF yoU'rE fROm EU"

    Because friends. Lots of friends. I have friends on EU too. I don't want to create an alt, max it up, gear it up, etc. I just don't have real life time for that type of thing, or money to spend on those skips. I like to focus on my main character.
    They've said several times JP players dont want NA to ruin their groups/strats/market.

    At best, we'll get DC duty queues, which should of been a thing by now..
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    Choose your Destiny:
    Pressure SE into fixing their gifting system and RMT issues
    >Defend the company
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    lol DON'T LET NA COME TO JP.

    What a great community! Very united and compassionate to one another. (note: this is sarcasm)
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    Mika Zahard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    The yell/shout thingy seems to be more server specific than region specific. On Zalera it is not very common and most conversations are made in the /say chat. The only place with massive yell/shout spam i have ever discovered was Balmung Quicksands. But this area is very special.



    My bard is level 87 now. I guess, this is long enough.


    Cheers
    Zalera is mostly a dead server.

    You should look at Bry/Adamantoise/Lamia/Behemoth. The main cities shout is always on the run.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ishe-P View Post
    lol DON'T LET NA COME TO JP.

    What a great community! Very united and compassionate to one another. (note: this is sarcasm)
    NA needs to be isolated for their own good.
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    Choose your Destiny:
    Pressure SE into fixing their gifting system and RMT issues
    >Defend the company
    -----------------------------------------------------
    *the GCBTW presses the enter key*

  9. #29
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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    This notion that SE cares about unique DC/Server culture is a joke. DC travel basically ruined Balmung; the worst offenders in its shout chat aren't even from here. People come to Ul'dah because they've heard it's a lewd zoo. Then when they find that it's rather tame, they go nuts and just create the lewd zoo they wanted to see. I went to Ul'dah to turn in grand company credits and opened shout chat against my better judgment. Literally all of it was just some guys from Aether slinging shit at each other; and then some guy from Coeurl would join in to be like "why yes, I also love dead baby jokes teehee." Imagine being a Balmunger who wants to RP in Ul'dah and you're basically crowded out by Traveling onlookers, and then having to hear that we won't get transcontinental DC travel because "SE cares about community culture"

    lol
    lmfao

    it's coming, just give it time. Although if they kept Japan isolated, I genuinely wouldn't be surprised. They tend to be the loudest about wanting to be kept separate, and the devs actually listen to them.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishe-P View Post
    lol DON'T LET NA COME TO JP.

    What a great community! Very united and compassionate to one another. (note: this is sarcasm)
    To be fair. It was always NA preaching how great the community is. Not JP as far as I know. It was always an NA ideology.
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