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    Doesn't RMT pay full price for codes?

    I understand they discount the codes to get people to their sites and buy more than the items they're advertising from Mogstation but I fail to see how SE loses money form those initial sales. If anything it only reduces the sales from the honest people who can't gift their friends now. So how will it hinder RMT? I only see SE losing sales it made to RMT and now additionally to the community as a whole.

    Someone please explain how this saves SE money and the reasoning behind it?
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 10-25-2022 at 11:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Doesn't RMT pay full price for codes?

    I understand they discount the codes to get people to their sites and buy more than the items they're advertising from Mogstation but I fail to see how SE loses money form those initial sales. If anything it only reduces the sales from the honest people who can't gift their friends now. So how will it hinder RMT? I only see SE losing sales to RMT and now to the community as a whole.

    Someone please explain how this saves SE money and the reasoning behind it?
    RMT vendors buy those codes with stolen credit cards. When the actual card owner issues a (rightful) chargeback SE is forced to return the money and gets hit by a big fee from VISA/Mastercard. As a general rule, chargebacks are extremely expensive and detrimental to the vendor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    RMT vendors buy those codes with stolen credit cards. When the actual card owner issues a (rightful) chargeback SE is forced to return the money and gets hit by a big fee from VISA/Mastercard. As a general rule, chargebacks are extremely expensive and detrimental to the vendor.
    Ahh. Thank you makes more sense now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Ahh. Thank you makes more sense now.
    Adding on to what azuri said: too many charge backs happening will make payment providers not want to make business with you at all. Certain services on the internet are struggling a lot with getting payment processors at all because of how much chargeback fraud is done to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Doesn't RMT pay full price for codes?

    I understand they discount the codes to get people to their sites and buy more than the items they're advertising from Mogstation but I fail to see how SE loses money form those initial sales. If anything it only reduces the sales from the honest people who can't gift their friends now. So how will it hinder RMT? I only see SE losing sales it made to RMT and now additionally to the community as a whole.

    Someone please explain how this saves SE money and the reasoning behind it?
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