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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralphe2449 View Post
    Imagine how terrible a game has to be that an entire community exists that tries to be the opposite of said game xd

    Good thing though, FF14 is the top mmo because it didnt follow the elitist design of wow where literally there's nothing to do other than raidlog and nothing worthwhile coming from casual content because the sad l33t raiders wouldnt get to feel as special xD
    As someone who never played WoW or didn't care for it beyond the fact that it ruined the lore of one my favorite RTS series, it certainly makes discussion with the average FFXIV fanatic utterly boring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    Don't need when 90% of your posts are defending the game while being rude and sarcastic. If you don't live 24/7 on forum, I might be able to dig through your post history to look for examples, but unfortunately, your oldest post the forum show is around 6.1 (I think?) and I can't find it again since it's probably older than that.
    In other words you've got nothing. I threw you a soft ball and you missed.

    You and your logic: I'm not crying about something, so I must be defending it... No, I'm generally just calling ideas trash or unfeasible in those cases. What sounds like me defending SE is generally me just stating facts in a situation. I don't necessarily like said facts. I get rude and sarcastic, yes. People like you earn that. Oddly enough, the alternative is that toxic positivity you complain about. Instead of telling you I don't care whether you stay or go, you'd rather I be polite to you and wish you well. I threw up a little just now.

    Maybe if you spent more time learning the game instead of stalking my posts, you'd be better at it and maybe have more fun.
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    Last edited by Deveryn; 10-24-2022 at 02:31 PM.

  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    Ironically proving his point that this community only exists through its weird insecurity towards WoW.
    It's weird, really. I've never seen a community in an MMO where worship culture and gaming tribalism is so incredibly rampant. Most people haven't even played the games they criticize but they choose to defend FF XIV from the alleged "haters" anyway. They only ever played FF XIV. This particular community is certainly a whole new breed of...whatever the heck it is.
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  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    It's weird, really. I've never seen a community in an MMO where worship culture and gaming tribalism is so incredibly rampant. Most people haven't even played the games they criticize or defend from the alleged "haters". They only ever played FF XIV. This particular community is certainly a whole new breed of...whatever the heck it is.
    I'd go with "mental".
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  5. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    It's weird, really. I've never seen a community in an MMO where worship culture and gaming tribalism is so incredibly rampant. Most people haven't even played the games they criticize but they choose to defend FF XIV from the alleged "haters" anyway. They only ever played FF XIV. This particular community is certainly a whole new breed of...whatever the heck it is.
    heh, you should see what WoW players say about preach xD
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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    It's weird, really. I've never seen a community in an MMO where worship culture and gaming tribalism is so incredibly rampant. Most people haven't even played the games they criticize but they choose to defend FF XIV from the alleged "haters" anyway. They only ever played FF XIV. This particular community is certainly a whole new breed of...whatever the heck it is.
    If you played wow it feels like a pretty reasonable reaction

    WoW as a game has been utterly decimated by developers treating raidloggers as special, casual content with worthless reward, pathetic amounts of content to the point their new xpac is just raidlogging and nothing for casuals other than "flying" xD


    So when you come to ff14, it looks like heaven in comparison, but then you see the same type of tryhard elitist in the forums moaning about how the game doesnt pander to them enough and how they should get more content/exclusive rewards because they ve been used to WoW unironically treating them as speshiul, and these are also the same people who whine about "toxic positivity" so it makes quite a bit of sense to be very harsh against such elements so the game is not ruined since they are the source of many problems in mmorpgs in general.
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    The tryhard elitist is the person who is going to finish their 5 pieces on this created to be beaten """"challenge"""" and then complaint that the baby, slower or less dexterous person are a problem which not only is toxic but indirectly implies that doing this basic created to be beaten task faster is an """achievement""" of """great skill""" which helps to falsely boost the elitist's self worth as that is their true motive, if challenge was truly their desire they would relish in the chance to do more than the rest.
    The healthy person on the other hand will either let people finish their part or assist them for their self worth does not depend on solving basic puzzles created to be beaten, aka as a video game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    In other words you've got nothing. I threw you a soft ball and you missed.
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...vent%2A/page13
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...servants/page3
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...Weapons./page5
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...Dressers/page8

    You sure? And these are just a few of them. I don't really have the energy going through trash to look for more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    I get rude and sarcastic, yes. People like you earn that. Oddly enough, the alternative is that toxic positivity you complain about. Instead of telling you I don't care whether you stay or go, you'd rather I be polite to you and wish you well. I threw up a little just now.
    Oddly enough, you also did that to people who aren't "me and people like me".
    And idk about you, but even to my nemesis on lore forum I tried to keep my sarcastic reply to a minimum. I'm not saint I know that, but you take the crown when it comes to being all smug and rude.


    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Maybe if you spent more time learning the game instead of stalking my posts, you'd be better at it and maybe have more fun.
    Well, I'm at work right now so I can't exactly play the game, am I? Also why do I want to be "better at it"? I'm content on being able clear savage, ultimate isn't really my thing.
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    Last edited by Kozh; 10-24-2022 at 04:39 PM.

  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    It's weird, really. I've never seen a community in an MMO where worship culture and gaming tribalism is so incredibly rampant. Most people haven't even played the games they criticize but they choose to defend FF XIV from the alleged "haters" anyway. They only ever played FF XIV. This particular community is certainly a whole new breed of...whatever the heck it is.
    It's always been around. XI and XIV 1.0 were just as much what the heck to the outside world.
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  9. #139
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    XI didn't become that until later in its life, although there was a huge rivalry between EN and JP players since they were largely shoved together on the same servers. That combination of two fundamentally incompatible cultures was hilarious on so many levels, but once in a while everybody would come together when SE did something incredibly stupid. You know, like...



    People tended to be pretty realistic about how bad the game was while at the same time acknowledging we'd play it anyway. >_>
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    Last edited by Absimiliard; 10-24-2022 at 03:07 PM.

  10. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    XI didn't become that until later in its life, although there was a huge rivalry between EN and JP players since they were largely shoved together on the same servers.
    That's because wow launched what, two years later? All hell broke loose.

    I still haven't found the jp button in XI.

    I still have fond memories of telling a PS2 player he didn't need to save his game, he just needed to log out.
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    Last edited by vanaii; 10-24-2022 at 03:09 PM.

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