Just tried Eureka for first time...

[Absimiliard]

Eureka was quite popular in its day, though there are many on the forums who would attempt to convince people otherwise. It's a pity they opted for quests alone for the EW relic instead of another zone like it.

[Deveryn]

Eureka was quite popular in its day, though there are many on the forums who would attempt to convince people otherwise. It's a pity they opted for quests alone for the EW relic instead of another zone like it.

Manderville is more popular than they anticipated and they wanted it to be more worth the time to create, so here we are.

[Absimiliard]

Manderville is more popular than they anticipated and they wanted it to be more worth the time to create, so here we are.

They won't be worth the time to create until they SE stops staggering their item level so hard, regardless of what they are gated behind. The relics were well worth it in ARR and Heavensward since they would become BiS in a much more reasonable timeframe. What we have now is... I mean, why even bother? Whoopdie do, that weapon you wasted a bunch of time on is BiS for like a week. Putting them behind Manderville quests was just the icing on the cake.

I might've considered going all in on them anyway if we'd gotten another Eureka. Even Bozja was... well, Bozja was okay, at least. I might've gone for another Bozja-type deal too, albeit not with anywhere near the same interest as I might've had for something even remotely close to Eureka.

[Deveryn]

They won't be worth the time to create until they SE stops staggering their item level so hard, regardless of what they are gated behind. The relics were well worth it in ARR and Heavensward since they would become BiS in a much more reasonable timeframe. What we have now is... I mean, why even bother? Whoopdie do, that weapon you wasted a bunch of time on is BiS for like a week. Putting them behind Manderville quests was just the icing on the cake.

I might've considered going all in on them anyway if we'd gotten another Eureka. Even Bozja was... well, Bozja was okay, at least. I might've gone for another Bozja-type deal too, albeit not with anywhere near the same interest as I might've had for something even remotely close to Eureka.

I'm talking about the work that goes into the Manderville scenes being worth the time.

[Dohmi-Zeiva]

They won't be worth the time to create until they SE stops staggering their item level so hard, regardless of what they are gated behind. The relics were well worth it in ARR and Heavensward since they would become BiS in a much more reasonable timeframe. What we have now is... I mean, why even bother? Whoopdie do, that weapon you wasted a bunch of time on is BiS for like a week. Putting them behind Manderville quests was just the icing on the cake.

I might've considered going all in on them anyway if we'd gotten another Eureka. Even Bozja was... well, Bozja was okay, at least. I might've gone for another Bozja-type deal too, albeit not with anywhere near the same interest as I might've had for something even remotely close to Eureka.

What? You don't think spending 1500 tomestones is fun?

[Vahlnir]

Eureka was quite popular in its day, though there are many on the forums who would attempt to convince people otherwise. It's a pity they opted for quests alone for the EW relic instead of another zone like it.

I mean, it was and still is the only way to get Stormblood's relics. Of course it was popular back in its day. Whether it was actually any fun or not will largely depend on who you ask. Personally, I hated it from start to finish both my first and second time through, but I loved Bozja due to being able to hop in and out of those areas on a whim and still being able to make meaningful progress.

[Voltyblast]

I mean, it was and still is the only way to get Stormblood's relics. Of course it was popular back in its day. Whether it was actually any fun or not will largely depend on who you ask. Personally, I hated it from start to finish both my first and second time through, but I loved Bozja due to being able to hop in and out of those areas on a whim and still being able to make meaningful progress.

I remember trying Eureka the first time it got out, I basically had to stay in the starting area, killing the same enemies and each taking at least 2-3 minute until I gave up 3-4 hours later (which only gave me like, 6 or 7 levels). Had no fun at all.
Same for Bozja, except I lasted 30 minutes before I quit.

[Deceptus]

Eureka was quite popular in its day, though there are many on the forums who would attempt to convince people otherwise. It's a pity they opted for quests alone for the EW relic instead of another zone like it.

Notice they said level 7 meaning they were in Anemos.

Anemos WAS fun, It was social.

Then Pagos came along, and the developers made it to actively conflict with the players preferred playstyle, and sucked the souls out of a lot of Warriors of Light.

[Vahlnir]

Notice they said level 7 meaning they were in Anemos.

Anemos WAS fun, It was social.

Then Pagos came along, and the developers made it to actively conflict with the players preferred playstyle, and sucked the souls out of a lot of Warriors of Light.

Yeah. I didn't like Anemos, but I felt Eureka had potential still, so I was cautiously optimistic about Pagos. I had hoped that they would improve upon the first zone a bit. Oh boy was I wrong. Pyros was basically Anemos 2.0 but with easier access to NMs. Still didn't like Eureka then, but it was without a doubt an improvement over Pagos as far as zone design and enemy placement was concerned. The random weapon stats though.... oof. I hated having to reroll my weapon chasing a good stat set. It was as if they learned how the players wanted to approach this content, but they decided to frustrate them anyway. When Hydatos came out, I was just...done. I got what I wanted and left. Came back after EW launch for the SMN relic, but I was able to skip most of the grind by having a lot of the materials already. Thank the Twelve for that.